By Popular Demand: A Non-Rant About Statistics

May 19, 2010 19:38

and something that I consider so beautiful it makes me want to cry (This one's for you markmc03Allow me to introduce you to Benford's law: a lovely mathematical fact that proves our intuition is often wrong, that "common sense" isn't always either of those things, and that funky mathematical facts can often be turned to practical use ( Read more... )

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markmc03 May 20 2010, 01:30:02 UTC
Hmmmm. Huh? If each digit is purely randomly selected from numbers 1 through 9, a 1 is more likely to be selected than a 9? But if each number has a 1 in 9 chance of being selected, how is it that 1 would come up with greater frequency than 9? I'm missing something. But then I'm not a mathematician. So I must defer to greater knowledge. I still place more faith in Murphy's law than Bender's, but what do I know? :)

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athenian_abroad May 20 2010, 04:04:13 UTC
The trick is to notice that each digit isn't randomly selected; only the whole number is. Consider some measurement that is uniformly distributed on the interval [1, 200]. There are two hundred possible "draws", but more than half have leading ones. (Specifically 1, 10-19 and 100-199). Now, that's an extreme case; on the interval [1, 300], only about a third of the results has a leading one -- but that's still way ahead of one in nine. If you go all the way to [1, 999], the odds of getting a leading one fall to just about one in nine. And then, as you continue to raise the upper bound, the probability of getting a leading one begin rising again.

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markmc03 May 20 2010, 05:48:38 UTC
I think my brain just exploded. I'll stick to acting and leave the statistical measurements to the real mathematicians. Cheers.

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kuroshii May 21 2010, 00:22:16 UTC
even the entire numbers aren't precisely randomly selected...they're defined as being the "result of a natural process." meaning, measurements of something. or results of something.

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melindadansky May 21 2010, 02:20:23 UTC
Don't feel bad. The law baffled mathematicians for almost 100 years. It wasn't until 1995 that someone proved it and actually laid down the probability law.

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Re: I'd find it more useful... melindadansky May 23 2010, 15:29:09 UTC
As a statistician friend of mine said when a customer asked him if his software could predict the stock market "If I could do that, I wouldn't be here."

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