I'm pretty sure the writers are aware that the show has a strong femslash fandom. If nothing else, I know some of the actresses have commented on it. (Actually, IIRC someone asked Ginnifer Goodwin if she thought Emma and Regina would get together and she said no and got called homophobic, and she was all "You didn't ask me what I thought about femslash or homosexuality! I just said I don't think Emma would hook up with her stepgrandmother!" [who had Emma evicted, arrested, aired her criminal record to hurt Henry, and accidentally almost killed Henry while trying to curse Emma. I'm a shipper there too, but if they hooked up, I'd think the writers lost it.])
I expect Neal will either be revealed to have an important identity (that Rumples is suddenly oh-so-concerned about Henry after being ready to leave him cursed forever at the end of last season would seem to support the theory that Neal is Bae) or die quickly. Or both. (Maybe Cora will decided that he's too much of a new complication is Emma and Regina's complicated parenting situation.)
I think the thing with Ginny was more clueless privilege. Like she said something that she thought was self-explanatory, and then she kind of shot herself in the foot more for clarifying with a "but the het pairing might get shown!" tacked on at the end. I don't think she had bad intentions, but I felt a little miffed with it. She reminded me of Gwenyth Paltrow's many mindless blunders (like the N's in Paris thing).
Though I do agree that some of the Swan Queen shippers get a little delusional about how much of a reality this is ever going to be, though I don't think anyone beats Faberry shippers in that arena. Newsflash, Ryan Murphy hates women, lesbians, Rachel, and Quinn, so even if you got that story line, there would more than likely be death involved for one of them. I'll gladly admit I ship Swan Queen in some fanon make-believe world not unlike many fanon make-believe worlds I view different television shows through the lens of.
I don't buy that he is Bae, or wouldn't he have bought what Pinocchio/August was saying more easily? Though why would he be concerned considering how would Rumpel know anything about Henry's father in the first place? I'll be a little disappointed if they go there, tbh. I think there are more creative things to do than have Henry's father magically be someone from FTL too. But they do like to go with the fate crap on that show.
I kind of hope Cora kills him. I'm still pissed the show oversold how bad he was before he totes became 'thief who really has a good heart and there was a misunderstanding, and he did it for Emma's sake'. Fuck that. Though this show usually lets me down when it reveals any 'big secrets'. Like Cora as Queen of Hearts. I was so shocked, I... oh, I wasn't shocked.
Everything I've heard about Murphy makes me glad I never checked out Glee. A lot of Swan Queen shippers make me glad I've never really been deeply into this fandom (though this is one of the few times where the fandom ship where the shippers concern me with their devotion and hopes of canonicity is a pairing I like too). I doubt they'll ever actually have a lesbian pairing onscreen, but I do get the feeling that they want to encourage the f/f shipping. But yeah, Ginnifer put her foot in her mouth a bit (I got the feeling she was trying to cover multiple inquiries without realizing how it could come across with them combined) but I think the reaction from some was more than she deserved.
Neal really did believe pretty easily though? I mean, he was convinced by a box and only really put up token protests after. (With Rumples, I was thinking it was the show and their MAGICAL CONNECTIONS THAT ARE MEANT TO BE type thing.)
Pretty much every reveal really is obvious way in advance. Sadly, it's rarely in a "Ha! Knew it!" satisfactory kind of way, but more of a "I didn't really need to be THAT right..." way.
Yeah, a lot of shows want to encourage the femmeslashing without committing to canon, and it does get tired sometimes, but it's better than we used to get, so I don't ever know how I feel about that. No, there are always some rabid people out there way overreacting. Some people have threatened Shonda over breaking up Calzona on twitter, and it's like, "If I were her, people, I'd break them up just because I wouldn't respond to threats!"
Though Ryan Murphy really is an asshole. Be glad you never touched Glee. AHS is worse, imo.
Yeah, but I thought there was something super duper in the box. I thought that was meant to show how amazing that box was.
more of a "I didn't really need to be THAT right..." way.
With Mulan and Aurora, at least, it feels like it's beyond what we get with most shows that encourage femslashing without committing to canon (though "most shows" is still "comparatively few," given how many shows assume you won't care about a relationship if a dude isn't involved and in the room) in that I think they probably went as far as they could get away with, while Emma and Regina or Ruby/any female character is more average level baiting.
AHS=American Horror Story? (I keep meaning to try that because I like gothic horror, but I only hear bad about it...)
I don't mind being able to predict what will happen-consume enough fiction, and you reach the point where it's just guessing which of a few options it'll be, but Once seems to genuinely think it's reveals are shocking and unexpected, which is what makes them unsatisfying, not the predictability. (Right now I'm watching a Korean gothic horror/romance series where most major reveal can be predicted at least an episode or two in advance, but they're all pulled off satisfyingly so there's no tired "I knew that.." to them.)
Yes, American Horror Story. If you are okay with your horror being largely based around what could be called women's reproductive horror, then it's for you. If not, the first season might be okay to watch? But the second season is fucking awful, imo.
Haha, I think that's what the problem was. It was like they thought, "We're going to have Lost like mysteries!" only it's nowhere near that level, it's questions they probably could have got people asking without a big, flashing sign with an arrow reading "THIS IS A BIG MYSTERY!" because then the reveal is even more unexciting, yeah.
I expect Neal will either be revealed to have an important identity (that Rumples is suddenly oh-so-concerned about Henry after being ready to leave him cursed forever at the end of last season would seem to support the theory that Neal is Bae) or die quickly. Or both. (Maybe Cora will decided that he's too much of a new complication is Emma and Regina's complicated parenting situation.)
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Though I do agree that some of the Swan Queen shippers get a little delusional about how much of a reality this is ever going to be, though I don't think anyone beats Faberry shippers in that arena. Newsflash, Ryan Murphy hates women, lesbians, Rachel, and Quinn, so even if you got that story line, there would more than likely be death involved for one of them. I'll gladly admit I ship Swan Queen in some fanon make-believe world not unlike many fanon make-believe worlds I view different television shows through the lens of.
I don't buy that he is Bae, or wouldn't he have bought what Pinocchio/August was saying more easily? Though why would he be concerned considering how would Rumpel know anything about Henry's father in the first place? I'll be a little disappointed if they go there, tbh. I think there are more creative things to do than have Henry's father magically be someone from FTL too. But they do like to go with the fate crap on that show.
I kind of hope Cora kills him. I'm still pissed the show oversold how bad he was before he totes became 'thief who really has a good heart and there was a misunderstanding, and he did it for Emma's sake'. Fuck that. Though this show usually lets me down when it reveals any 'big secrets'. Like Cora as Queen of Hearts. I was so shocked, I... oh, I wasn't shocked.
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Neal really did believe pretty easily though? I mean, he was convinced by a box and only really put up token protests after. (With Rumples, I was thinking it was the show and their MAGICAL CONNECTIONS THAT ARE MEANT TO BE type thing.)
Pretty much every reveal really is obvious way in advance. Sadly, it's rarely in a "Ha! Knew it!" satisfactory kind of way, but more of a "I didn't really need to be THAT right..." way.
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Though Ryan Murphy really is an asshole. Be glad you never touched Glee. AHS is worse, imo.
Yeah, but I thought there was something super duper in the box. I thought that was meant to show how amazing that box was.
more of a "I didn't really need to be THAT right..." way.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
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AHS=American Horror Story? (I keep meaning to try that because I like gothic horror, but I only hear bad about it...)
I don't mind being able to predict what will happen-consume enough fiction, and you reach the point where it's just guessing which of a few options it'll be, but Once seems to genuinely think it's reveals are shocking and unexpected, which is what makes them unsatisfying, not the predictability. (Right now I'm watching a Korean gothic horror/romance series where most major reveal can be predicted at least an episode or two in advance, but they're all pulled off satisfyingly so there's no tired "I knew that.." to them.)
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Yes, American Horror Story. If you are okay with your horror being largely based around what could be called women's reproductive horror, then it's for you. If not, the first season might be okay to watch? But the second season is fucking awful, imo.
Haha, I think that's what the problem was. It was like they thought, "We're going to have Lost like mysteries!" only it's nowhere near that level, it's questions they probably could have got people asking without a big, flashing sign with an arrow reading "THIS IS A BIG MYSTERY!" because then the reveal is even more unexciting, yeah.
Oooh, which Korean series?
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