in our secret world we were colliding
Title: It’s Always Better In The Kitchen
Character/s: Alex/Tony
Rating: R
Spoilers: None
Word Count: 1000
Disclaimer: I’m not sure Val McDermid would approve of this.
Summary: High heels, a kitchen bench, Alex and Tony. Sequel to my earlier piece, ‘Give An Inch’.
A/N: mammothluv, you are a bad influence on me. I used to be a nice girl who would never dream ( Read more... )
Character/s: Alex/Tony
Rating: R
Spoilers: None
Word Count: 1000
Disclaimer: I’m not sure Val McDermid would approve of this.
Summary: High heels, a kitchen bench, Alex and Tony. Sequel to my earlier piece, ‘Give An Inch’.
A/N: mammothluv, you are a bad influence on me. I used to be a nice girl who would never dream ( Read more... )
OMG! YOU WROTE IT. SQUEE!
First of all, if your claim that you were a nice girl before my bad influence were true, I would be most proud because it would have been a shame to waste this true porning talent that you obviously possesses.
This was seriously hot and yet not so focused on the porn that characterization went by the wayside. I love that there are these little moments that are so uniquely Tony and Alex like the way they look at each other and her surprise over his lack of nervousness. And for some reason I love the detail about the wine coming from her brother. (Way to be, Jago!)
I don't know if I've mentioned this before, but I adore the way you describe scenes. Stuff like this just makes it so easy to picture every action: The hint of a smile in his narrowed eyes, tugging ever so delicately at the corners of his mouth.
And some favorite bits:
There is two feet of space between them, far too far, and she reaches out, the sharp toe of one fantastically red stiletto stabbing somewhere at his middle, above his belt at least.
and
She holds her leg straight, year upon year of ballet classes finally coming in handy, although her father would not be at all impressed to hear of the use to which his thousands of pounds, back in the day, are being currently put.
Girl knows how to get her point across and I love her for it. And the ballet thing both made me chuckle and was one of those true to the character details that I so dig.
Speaking of, I dig Tony's feigned nervousness. (Or perhaps Alex only thought it was feigned and it was real but he got over it quickly when faced with an expanse of bare Alex thigh right in front of him?) Whatever the case, I can absolutely see Tony playing on her expectations only to surprise her. I didn't expect that from him either and I was sitting here reading saying, "Yeeeeaaah, get it Tony!" (Astounding my maturity.)
Also, her heels digging into Tony's back? SO HOT. SO SERIOUSLY HOT.
And of course, I die for stuff like this at the end: There is not a word, nor a breath between them. She finds his eyes, again, and it’s the same as always; the most profound connection she’s ever felt.
In short, I love this and, even thought I don't buy this claim of me corrupting you, I'm happy to take any blame you throw my way for such an awesome story.
*bows down to the porn (porn???) master*
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Maybe it's not so much a case of your corrupting influence, rather you must just bring out the true dirty bitch in me that was there all along. Either way, I am kind of enjoying this new status as capable-of-writing-porn with which I've recently found myself. It's, like, really fun.
Oh, I'm really happy you saw some actual characterisation in this. I was a tiny bit worried, what with the lack of dialogue and any identifying features to hint at who the characters are, but I guess when you know these two as we do (sad creatures though we may be), it makes it easier to spot them, even through the haze of PORNOGRAPHIC HAPPENINGS. And I love that you love Jago's presence here; I figure he gave his sister a whole crate of nice Otago pinot noir in the hopes it might just come in handy in getting her sex life going. Told you Jago adores Tony, didn't I?
I don't what's with Alex and Tony and using their feet to get the point across. They've both done it now in my fics; heaven only knows where the hell I got that concept from. But, Alex does have every right to put those shoes to the test (side note: speaking of Alex/River as we almost were, let's just take a moment here to imagine those two with their matchy-matchy red high heels.)
Or perhaps Alex only thought it was feigned and it was real but he got over it
Ooh, look at you, getting all deep in Tony's head! And you're right, of course; he's nervous as hell. But this does follow on from a nice long evening of flirting, plus the penis joke, so he's actually pretty relaxed and as certain as he's ever going to get that yes, Alex indeed does want him to get his hand up her skirt, so he was able to overcome his nerves quick enough. I don't know what made Alex so damn bold in these pieces, unless it really is the wine and the fact that she is, after all, indescribably horny. (Holy shit, I enjoyed writing that line WAY too much.)
I was sitting here reading saying, "Yeeeeaaah, get it Tony!"
Yeah, me too. Plus, he really likes her legs. (Something else I have in common with him, funnily enough.) As if he could resist, when she's perched there with her skirt up around her hips (where he eats his cereal, no less!)
The heels in the back opportunity was too good to pass up. Poor Tony is going to have bruises (but then, Alex will too, from the edge of that bench. I'm so sadistic. I should get a job at Electra's.)
I die for stuff like this at the end:
See, so do I. It seems, hard as I try, I can't just write these two having out-and-out dirty sex. There just has to be some big emotional element that always comes up. I think it'd take at least six months worth of regular (I'm talking three or four times a day) shagging for these two to be able to just have dirty hardcore sex without the OMGILOVEUSOMUCHBB moments appearing. They've got to get the two-plus years' worth of SERIOUS WANT out of their systems first, before the SERIOUS HORNY can fully take over. Which is cool, and totally sweet.
Ah, happy sigh. This was so fun to write. (Although, my housemate just got home from his Africa trip and was sitting opposite me on the couch while I was writing, going all 'C'mon, let me show you my pictures of lions and crap', and I'm all 'shut the fuck up, I'm writing porn over here'. Awkward.) I'm so pleased you enjoyed it. Now I've kind of got the hang of it, I don't think I'll be able to stop writing these two shagging. Some CID-sex is next on the agenda, I think.
*continues porny dance*
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Oh, and I meant to say, don't think I didn't thoroughly enjoy the way you employed the hand up the skirt/dress technique here. Because I enjoyed it as much as humanly possible and then some.
Adds to your list of things: driving thing, glove thing, kitchen thing, furniture thing, foot thing. You've got a lot going on there. You are one complicated woman.
I think Alex being bold is quite understandable. She has that sexy!bold thing in her and she's kept it pent up for so long with Tony that she just snapped and went fucking FULL FORCE. More than reasonable given the circumstances. (Psst. Forgot to mention my love of the corkscrew line too!)
You find me someone who doesn't enjoy Alex's legs and I'll... well, I just won't comprehend it. Tony is never going to look at his morning cereal the same I'm sure. Breakfast is going to become a much pornier experience.
A little bruising just shows they both put their all into it. It's not sadistic so much as super enthusiastic. Though don't let me stop you from taking up a job at Electra's if that's where your passion lies. I wouldn't dare keep you from your calling.
And I dig their dirty with a little OMGILUVUBB thrown in. That just makes the dirty all the more delicious, in my opinion! *smoosh Alex/Tony and their adorable dirty*
Doesn't the housemate know that porn trumps Africa trip pictures any day? Interrupting your porn just isn't right. Somebody might have to get ghetto on that dude.
I loved it! I'm quite pleased that you seem to be on a roll here and I'm all for some up and coming CID sex!
*joins porny dance*
Also, River/Alex/matching red heels. FUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKK.
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I find the hand-up-skirt almost unbearably hot, and I've no real idea why. I mean, anything with Alex and Tony is hot, but the concept of Tony getting his hand up her skirt (or just the concept in general really), just does things to me. Weird. Add it to the list of weird pervy stuff you already know about me, I suppose.
You are one complicated woman.
or, just a total whore. And possibly ever-so-slightly sexually frustrated at this point in time. Possibly.
she's kept it pent up for so long with Tony that she just snapped
Absolutely. The poor darling's been lusting after him for so long, I can imagine she would be quite uncontrollable.
On that idea, can I just mention I've often wondered exactly what Alex did after she went to bed that night Tony slept at her kitchen table? I have this funny feeling she spent a lot of time lying there hoping he might just wake up and come upstairs to err, check out the paint job on her bedroom ceiling. And then, well. I'm sure she found something to do to amuse herself. (Am I really talking about Alex getting herself off while Tony is asleep downstairs? Is this real life?)
Alex's legs are unreal. When she wears those jeans in 6.03, I'm a goner. The woman has nice quads. I am a sucker for quads. And just legs in general (Now do you understand the full extent of my love for Gaga? Best legs ever, on that girl.)
It's not sadistic so much as super enthusiastic
I am in complete and utter agreement. Baby, when it's love, if it's not rough it isn't fun (I really need to go listen to some Gags and get this out of my system, obviously).
I thing going ghetto on the housemate is a good idea. There are currently FIVE vuvuzelas in my living room. Although, I did have this one mad idea whilst looking at the inevitable lion photos: I wouldn't mind writing something from someone's (weirdly, I'm thinking Carol) POV in which the idea of Alex being reminiscent of a lioness is explored. I can kind of see Carol lurking around Bradfield, possibly a bit stalker-ish, and watching Alex, and being reminded of the lionesses she's seen in the Serengeti (she moved to SA, she's got to have gone on safari at some point, right?)
Also, on the Africa thing (what the hell is with my brain?) I've always assumed Alex and her brother were born overseas in various exotic locations, presuming her dad was military. Lately, I've been toying with somewhere in Greece for Jago, and either Egypt or Botswana for Alex. Don't ask me where this shit comes from, but I can see Tony finding out somehow that Alex was born somewhere really out-there, and being all 'Since when were you born in Botswana?!' and Alex just looking at him. I don't know. Thoughts? Do you think she's even more exotic than she already is, or is she Scot-born and bred all the way?
(Don't doubt for a second that I dont'share your reaction to the Alex/River/heels idea, because oh yes, I do.)
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Am I really talking about Alex getting herself off while Tony is asleep downstairs? Is this real life?
I hope it's real life. I like it here. I'm going to stay a while. But, also, joins you in 'possibly ever-so-slightly sexually frustrated at this point in time' land, more so now that you're throwing images like this at me.
Alex does have awesome legs. I have to confess to being more of a cleavage/boob person which makes me feel so unoriginal and low brow. Somehow your leg thing seems far more classy. Luckily, Alex has awesome everything. Speaking of her everything, did you see this pic on Simone's Facebook fan page? Oh, hi there Simone cleavage. I've missed you so.
Gaga does have unbelievably gorgeous legs. No wonder she so rarely wears pants. I wouldn't either!
There's no need for anyone to have five vuvuzelas in their living room.
The Alex/lioness comparison is a fitting one and stalker Carol observing Alex does intrigue me. Especially, since I'm an angst whore, the idea of her watching Alex with Tony.
Hmmm. I can buy Alex and Jago being born in exotic locales but for some reason I picture them being pretty settled in Scotland for most of their childhood. Maybe Dad is military but got some kind of stable desk job to spend more time with the kids when they were young? I could see him traveling around again a bit more when they were teenagers and occasionally taking the family with him but I like to think of Alex and Jago having their younger years pretty consistently in Scotland. Yes? No?
LOL at Tony and his "Since when were you born in Botswana?" I can definitely picture that and Alex's look in response.
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UM YES, THIS. I completely agree. She was almost wearing them in my kitchen bench porn fic, you know, but then I figured it was summer (because she was wearing D&G Sicily), so I went with bare legs. But anyhow, I completely buy Alex wearing thigh-high stockings, totally. And you're not helping the whole sexually-frustrated-at-this-point thing with all this talk either, given my weakness for legs. Tony would love the thigh-highs. The. Lucky. Bastard.
See, I really don't think my leg thing makes me at all highbrow or classy. To paraphrase House, when you get a good pair of legs in front of you, if you follow them up 'you can see all the way to the promised land'. Okay, so perhaps that was unnecessary, but I've always wanted to use that quote.
I certainly hadn't seen that pic (or the others), and as such, please excuse my excessively lustful fangirling, but I know you agree:
OH HAY GURL DAMN YOU LOOKIN FINE EVEN WHEN UR GETTIN UR WEAVE DID.
(That's totally a fake ponytail. How hilariously appropriate.) Oh my buggery bollocks, is she looking good or what?! I love recent pics (because I'm a stan, ok), and damn, she is looking hot these days. I hear you on the cleavage (I do, I really really do - wow) but perhaps I am classy after all, because right now I'm all asquee over THAT PERFECT FACE. She is so fucking beautiful. How can she even exist. And that other pic where she's wearing jeans. I am in love.
Phew. I'm not sure I have any lustfulness left to talk about Gaga's legs. Oh wait.
Her legs were the very first thing I ever noticed about Gags. Way back in the day when I first saw the video for Just Dance, I was all 'who the girl with the legs?!' Shallow, me? Why, yes. But now I love her for her brain, too, so it's okay.
Stalker!Carol is such a cool prospect, but I'm not sure how I'd go with the Carol-characterisation. I'm a bit afraid if I do try to write it she'll end up seeming completely one-dimensional and stalkerish bitchy. Then, that could be cool too, I guess. I too am a total whore for the idea of her watching Tony and Alex together. I'm thinking she's watching them at a crime scene together, and Alex is being all HBIC and Carol is just SEETHING to see how close the two of them are. Oooh. Could be fun.
I'm with you on the settling in Scotland thing while Alex and Jago were young, but I do fancy the idea of them being born in weird places. Plus, this whole gorgeous property/estate thing they have has to have been in the family for ages, and I really want Alex to have grown up there (She has a favourite apple tree. I know, I'm weird.)
Yeah, I think it could be "Since when were you born in (insert exotic place here)?" Botswana is probably too random. Somewhere in India would be cool. Or maybe split the difference and say she was born in Spain, seeings as her mother is Spanish. Hmm, curious indeed. *returns to stanning over new pic of Simone*
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I'm terribly sorry then that I felt the need to bring up the thigh highs again in my most recent comment. It's just that, now they're in my head, I can't quite get them out. Such is the power of Alex's slutty clothing.
Now that you've thrown that promised land quote at me, I take it back. Your love of legs isn't at all classy. Thank, God. *pats seat next to me* Please do come join me in dirty perv land once again.
LOL. You are so right that there is some fake hair going on up in that Simone photo. I wonder if her new role will involve some ghetto weave pulling. (Semi-related: I honest to God watched a movie last night where a weave was mentioned in a serious and not at all funny scene and I started giggling inappropriately and the friend I was watching with was all, "What the fuck is wrong with you?")
And, yes, she is indeed looking gorgeous and I did squee over her freaking PERFECT FACE but, I cannot lie, I said hello to the boobs first.
Stalker Carol really is quite an interesting concept. I don't know if I've mentioned but I always had this thought that she'd see something on the news about Tony killing Michael (assuming it might be big enough news to reach her - a profiler killing a serial killer) or hear about it through some law enforcement buddy or other and, after agonizing for weeks or even months about whether to do it she'd find herself traveling to Bradfield to check up on him.
I think that would be a perfect opportunity for stalker Carol. She'd expect to see him a total mess (as he would have been had something like that happened when she knew him) but would instead find him dealing and being happy with Alex. Oh, that would suck for her.
I dig young Alex and her favorite apple tree and gorgeous family estate. I can just picture her and Jago running all over the place and getting up to all sorts of mischief.
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*snuggles next to you in pervert land* Let's never even think about being classy again. It's far too depressing.
Oh yay I'm so glad you think it's fake hair too. Being a Gaga-stan, I'm usually pretty confident about spotting weaves and such, but that ponytail is a pretty good colour match. It's nice to have your confirmation on this very important topic. (How does a weave get mentioning in a serious and not at all funny scene anyway? Talk of weaves does not belong in serious scenes. What were they thinking?)
I can't blame you for expressing the proper greeting toward her fucking incredible rack. I mean, seriously. Her boobs are insane. She's so titchy, and yet she has these ginormous breasts! What the hell is that about. Anyway, I like it. Everyone in the whole world likes it. Remember the deleted intense Helen-Nikki snogging scene, when she grabs Nikki's hands and shoves them on her boobs? Yeah, I just felt like bringing that one up, to further increase the whole sexual-frustration thing.
I love your idea about Carol hearing about the Michael thing. I think it would certainly make the news at some level, plus I'm sure Carol still has her fingers in many pies around the UK (and there's her brother, who is probably acting as her own personal Tony Hill Google Alert, the poor guy). Gosh, I would love to see Carol show up at Tony's office at the university, and him being all calm and cool and picking up that picture of Alex and Ben (the one he nicked from her desk drawer when Hall shoved it in there) and saying something like 'See this? This the reason I'm not angry you left. If you'd stayed, I'd never have this' or something. But I'd also very, very much like to see him go completely apeshit at her for expecting him to just wait around all miserable without her, and then being all put out when she finds he's actually happy. Oh Carol, I'm sorry I torture you so, but it's my revenge on Tony's behalf.
And oh oh oh, how I would love to see Alex and Carol. Alex would be just as defensive and bitchy as I am on Tony's behalf, but she'd probably try to keep the peace and be polite, only letting slip with the true Alex rage later on when she and Tony were alone. Oh, how I want that scene.
It certainly is a gorgeous family estate. I'm so lame, I can picture every single room in the house, the grounds, the apple and pear tree orchard, the paddocks, the horses, the stream, all of it. Funnily enough, the porch and the kitchen are the clearest in my brain. Obviously I've got my priorities sorted, for FEELINGS talks and kitchen sex.
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Snuggly times in pervertland, oh yeah!
We are agreed on all the fake hair issues you've mentioned. 1.) Simone is wearing fake hair 2.) That's totally okay because it's nice fake hair and she's fucking Simone 3.) A weave should never be mentioned in a serious scene of any show or film. Seriously, I could not take the rest of the film seriously because I was still sitting there all aghast going, "Did they just try to turn a conversation about her weave into a serious relationship moment? Did that shit just happen?"
Operation increase sexual-frustration: SUCCESS. Hell yes I remember the deleted 'Feel me up now, Nikki. Here let me help you.' scene. I'm really surprised Nikki had to be encouraged in that fashion because, as we just discussed, HELLO OMG WHAT THOSE BOOBS.
Oh, I like your idea about Carol showing up at Tony's office. And it would be interesting to see him tell Carol he's glad she left because it meant he got Alex. I've always thought about him saying that to Alex. (Like her saying, "Do you wish Carol never left?" and him immediately being all, "No, no! Because that's how I ended up with you and I wouldn't have missed knowing you for anything.") But... it would be satisfying to see him say something like that to Carol because it is true and it probably won't be at all what she expects to hear. I suspect, like you said, she thinks she left him floundering and a mess which she did but I don't think she realized he'd be able to bounce back and grow and adjust and learn to be happy like he did. As much as it hurt him at the time, her leaving was in many ways the best thing that could have happened to him. (And I do love that he's still hanging onto that picture of Alex and Ben, by the way.)
Yeah, I can see Alex being cordial to Carol but in a cool way that made it obvious she's pissed at Carol for what she put Tony through and also a little territorial now that Carol's back. And, OMG, it would be so interesting to see Tony's reaction to Alex raging about Carol on his behalf. He'd be really touched at how much she cared about him getting hurt.
Hey, you've got to get the porches and kitchens of any place and Alex and Tony are going to be mapped out first. You know what's important, woman!
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You know what's kind of funny and ridiculous? I opened the reply alert thing for this comment in Gmail, and you know how Gmail has all the advertisements along the side? What are all the ads for when I click on this message? HAIR EXTENSIONS. OMG get out of my emails, Gmail.
That Helen/Nikki snog/boob scene manages to achieve a really amazing balance between reverential and desperate horniness. It's one of the only getting-it-on scenes in film or television that I really appreciate, and refer back to quite often FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES, LIZ. I'm tempted to wonder if the first Alex/Tony snog wouldn't go something like that (and no, it's not as if I've watched the vid through squinty eyes and imagined Nikki was Tony just to get a better idea. It's not like they've totally got the same haircut and this fact makes it easier, or anything.)
"I wouldn't have missed knowing you for anything."
Excuse me whilst I expire from squee. Oh, to hear Tony say something like that. With all this talk of Alex reassuring Tony, it's often easy to overlook the idea of Alex needing reassurance too, I find. After all, she's the one who's been through this absolutely horrible divorce, and whose life has taken turns I'm sure she never would've expected, plus she does have that adorably vulnerable side, even if it's well hidden most of the time. And I love it even more because Tony would so say it in his "OMG Alex this is so obvious, why do I even have to tell you this?" tone of voice. He'd be all "Of course I adore you. Of course I think you are the most amazing woman and mother I've ever known. Of course you are my favourite human being on the planet, ever. How can you even doubt that for a second?" Awww Anthony Valentine, you little sweetheart.
But yeah, back on topic. Tony definitely still has that picture on his desk at the university. (I watched 4.03 yesterday and am resultingly squeeful over all the lovely shots of Tony's office and have been imagining myself in there being psychoanalysed and having my head petted.)
Alex would be feeling so territorial and protective if Carol came back, but the poor thing would have to repress all of those FEELINGS in order to allow Tony the freedom to make whatever decision he needs to about Carol because ALEX IS ALL ABOUT PUTTING OTHER PEOPLE'S NEEDS FIRST, Y'ALL. Not that Tony would have any decision to make. Especially if all this occurs after the funeral etc; that was undoubtedly the point where Tony realised oh shit, this chick? She's the one. Nothing is going to throw him off now (Not even Carol. Yeah, I said it. Ima smack that blonde bitch if she tries anything. My true FEELINGS are coming out.)
The geography of this relationship is extremely important to me. I'm scribbling away at my new fic at the moment, and I'm up to writing Alex showing Tony around the grounds of her childhood home. Fuck, I love coming up with this shit.
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I completely agree that the Helen/Nikki boob n' snog scene achieves the perfect balance between 'I am overwhelmed by epic love for you' and 'I want to fuck your brains out.' God, it's gorgeous. I don't blame you at all for busting out your glasses and studying the scene closely for research purposes. In fact, now that you've mentioned it, I might pop on over to youtube and study it a few times myself. (Huh. Tony and Nikki do have the same haircut.)
Yeah, I think it's sometimes easy to overlook Alex needing reassurance because she does that HBIC 'you don't want to screw with me' thing so well but girl has such a sensitive side. I don't want Tony to neglect it. And, amazing dude that he is, I think once he realizes that she adores hearing stuff like that from him and needs the reassurance every once in a while he WILL NOT SHUT UP ABOUT HOW AWESOME SHE IS. Because we know he thinks she's the best thing on Earth, I just don't think he feels comfortable expressing it fully yet but once he gets there and realizes Alex digs when he does it? HOLY FUCK WATCH OUT. THE FLOODGATES WILL OPEN AND THE ALEX ADORATION CONFESSIONS WILL FLOW.
I want to see Alex finding Tony with that picture of her and Ben so badly. Can we just sit and imagine her reaction for a minute? He'd be a little embarrassed to be caught and she's be so delighted she wouldn't know what to do with herself (even if she did tease him for nicking stuff from her office). And if he even started ranting about how irritated he was when Hall put it in a drawer? She'd melt.
Look at you getting your 4.03 rewatch on! If I catch up and watch 4.03, would you wish to try and do 4.04 together sometime this weekendish? If you're around and available, that is. I don't know about you but I feel I might need some mutual hand holding, lap time/hair-smoothing to get through it.
I really love the idea of Alex being all self-sacrificing and basically telling Tony to go for it with Carol if he wants to. There would be angst galore on her side (and on Tony's too if the way Alex put it made him think she was okay with it/didn't really want to be with him.) But, it would be that emotional and mushy, tearful stuff we love when they both finally confessed that NO OMG I LOVE YOU AND PLEASE DON'T EVER BE WITH ANYONE ELSE EVER AND BE MY SNUGGLE BUNNY FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVE, OKAY? So, in the end, all the angst would be totally worth it.
I'm extremely pleased by this image of you getting ghetto on Carol. *stands in your corner with a cool towel and a water bottle and cheers you on*
I'm up to writing Alex showing Tony around the grounds of her childhood home. Fuck, I love coming up with this shit.
Fuck, I love when you come up with this shit!
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'Boob n'snog'. I love that. It reminds of when people call Simone 'Lahboob'. I love that too.
God, I love that Tony's the only one who gets to see that vulnerable side of her. She's hiding around the corner in the corridor in 5.02 so no-one can see her losing it, but when Tony comes along she just crumbles. I hope he realises how fucking special and lucky he is that she is willing to let him see her like that. It's a really big thing, especially as you said for such a hbic. You can tell that being really honest with someone like that is something that Alex hasn't had for a long time, in the beginning, and that it's something she really does need.
Alex finding out about the picture would be so amazing. And I love that Tony would be all reluctant to give it back to her, because he so wants to keep it.
Hey, I've even started 4.04! I'm on a roll. Gosh, it's such an amazing ep. I don't know what I'm going to do when I finish 6.04 and having nothing to watch while running.. oh wait, I'll start again. Easy. I'd love to hook up for some handholding and unintelligent squee for 4.04 (although we better not let 4.03 get neglected - I love that ep and Tony wears lots of jumpers), and sometime around the weekend would be fine. I can do Sunday or Monday morning here (Sat night and Sun for you?) again, if that works, otherwise I could also stay up and do morning for you one of those days too. Crap, this timey wimey stuff sucks. It's so confusing. But anyway, I'm cool with whatever! I'm always around, and ALWAYS willing to ramble about these two with you.
The idea of Tony feeling pushed away by Alex trying to give him space to sort out his Carol stuff is so amazing and so full of potential. It's so incredibly sad when he feels like that (like he is right now in 4.04), but at least if it's happening later on post 6.04 Alex will be okay with her FEELINGS for him enough to be able to figure out that's what he's thinking and reassure him. And call him her snuggle bunny. A lot.
Carol better watch herself. That's all I'm saying.
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It reminds of when people call Simone 'Lahboob'. I love that too.
Oh, good. I'd hate to be alone in my immaturity in that area.
Yeah I think/hope that Tony gets what a sign of Alex's trust in him it is that she allows him to see her fall apart like that. I get the feeling that as you said it's an extremely rare thing for her to do and it shows just how absolutely comfortable and accepted she feels with Tony that she can just expose her big overwhelming mess of FEELINGS to him.
Alex finding out about the picture would be so amazing. And I love that Tony would be all reluctant to give it back to her, because he so wants to keep it.
OMG. Can you just imagine Alex grabbing the picture and saying she'd take it back and thanks for holding on to it for her and him just snatching it back away from her? I'm am giggling in a giddy fashion over this mental image.
I'm glad I'm not the only one on a constant rewatch cycle! It's impossible to quit this bloody show.
Oh, excellent! I didn't want to make you watch 4.03 again if you didn't want to but, if there's jumper discussion to be had, BRING IT ON. If you wish, we could do both Saturday and Sunday and fit in both 4.03 and 4.04. Your morning/my night works for me again if you're happy with it but I could also drag myself out of bed early for my morning/your night on Saturday and/or Sunday if you'd prefer. I shall plan on being online my Saturday and Sunday nights but if you'd rather switch it up and do your nights instead, just holla at me! (Damn the time wimey! That's the most jumbled paragraph ever.)
I already blathered on about Alex/Tony in the face of Carol's return somewhere else today so I'll save you any more but I do think you're absolutely correct that the angst post-6.04 would be much less drawn out than it would have been if Carol had returned say pre-season 6 because Alex and Tony are just that much more in tune with each other and their feelings/FEELINGS.
Between you and Alex, Carol is going to be afraid to ever return to Bradfield again. She is no match for all that ghetto.
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There's also that cool nickname they often use for her on AfterEllen: The Great LezLahbib. *coughIwishcough*
I really do hope he appreciates just how huge it is for her to be so open with him all the time. She really lets him in, and she doesn't often push him too much to do the same. Sometimes I kind of want to punch him in the arm for taking her for granted. (In fact, I want to punch him in the arm a lot of the time.) He's so stuck on the idea that he's not worthy, that it doesn't seem to compute that she's constantly reaching out to him, and she wouldn't be doing this if she didn't look up to him so much, and care about him like she does. Grr, Tony. You're so pretty, but you do piss me off sometimes.
YES. Tony ripping the picture back out of her hands would be so hilarious. I can also see him letting her take it back in silence, but then spending the rest of the evening sulking and miserable, until she cracked the shits and demanded he tell her what's up, and he'd just look at her across their dinner table/the bar/whatever, and be all "I wanted to keep that photo." she would be so unbelievably touched. And she'd go home immediately that night and find the hottest picture of herself with Ben that she owns, and put it in a really nice frame and have it sent to him by courier the next day (because giving it to him face to face would be too much for her FEELINGS). Just picture Tony sitting at his desk opening his mail, and the massive delighted grin he would get once he sees the picture. OMG.
BRING IT BITCH. My morning/your night works best for me too, as long as it's okay with you. Shall we agree to do your Saturday night/my Sunday morning, and your Sunday night/my Monday morning for 4.03 and 4.04 then? (You know I think we might be getting the hang of this. Now that I know it's just fourteen hours backward, I can kind of get my head around it. So far, anyway. Also, I've never actually teased you about living in the past, have I? Perhaps I should.) I think we should just cut the bullshit and do the every ep live like we have been. Even if it takes us forever, I don't think we'll be doing Alex and Tony and ourselves justice otherwise.
(I Can.Not.Wait. for 4.04. I'm DYING to bust out each and every 'lol dis bitch' gif that I have for whenever Karen appears on screen. Prepare yourself for lots of laughing Gaga and Beyonce, js.)
Yeah, I do kind of fancy the idea that Carol might come back once they're already settled beautifully into this perfect sexy relationship, and she'd be all put out when neither of them really bat and eyelid at her, and are actually really quite friendly and nice to her, because they're so secure with each other and in love and happy. Suck it, Jordan. Just suck it. Lol dis bitch.
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I do believe we can officially declare ourselves completely fucked up on fandom. We are ridiculous and it pleases me. In the interest of full disclosure, I should inform you that I am going to get my hair done this afternoon but have decided against any weave or fake pony tail because of the very real danger such things in a girlfight with a fictional character as you pointed out above. Thanks for leading by example.
Speaking of fighting, I just might join you in punching Tony in the arm. He really can be oblivious about all the ways Alex reaches out for him. The only thing that saves him from being completely obnoxious in that way is the fact that he does it because he just can't believe she would care about him. It's not that he doesn't want it or doesn't care that she's reaching out, he just can't fathom that she would. So he's this mixture of annoying and 'oh, you poor man.' Gah! At least settle on one so we can decide whether to punch you or give you a freaking hug, Tony!
OMG. Alex sending Tony a new picture of her and Ben. JESUS WITH THE CUTE ALREADY. I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE. And I'm quite fond of the fact that she'd take extra care to pick one where she looked especially sexy. Tony would be unbearably happy for days after. Lord they're sickening.
I've never thought to use this icon on you in our many discussions about wtf time it is and now that I've thought to bust it out I'm quite pleased with myself. Feel free to tease me about living in the past. You badass futuristic types like to pick on us poor people who are behind the times. I understand.
I think we should just cut the bullshit and do the every ep live like we have been. Even if it takes us forever, I don't think we'll be doing Alex and Tony and ourselves justice otherwise.
You know, you're so right. Anything we skip and watch apart will just lead us to worry about missed opportunities for squee, crackish comments, snarky analysis, etc. It would be far too stressful for us in the long run. I shall see you Saturday/Sunday and Sunday/Monday to get to work on this watching every episode live business. Woohoo for making it through our first full season!
I am ready for all the 'dis bitch gifs you might have. I'll have to see if I have any appropriate gifs in my arsenal. (By the way I saw your other comment about what Tony actually says in 4.04 and I'm horrified that it's even worse than we recalled. I think I shall ignore it until it actually happens and the perhaps fall apart in a big mess of FEELINGS. I apologize in advance.)
Suck it, Jordan. Just suck it. Lol dis bitch.
You can only say shit like that because you don't have a weave she can pull.
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he just can't fathom that she would
And you know what? It's her fault that he can't fathom it. Sure, Tony's naturally insecure about his own loveability/desirability, but the fact is that in the beginning, Alex made it more than clear that she didn't want any kind of relationship beyond work and friendship. Doing the rewatch has really made it clear just how much he must have fixated on this apparent rejection: there's so many instances when he says something half- or totally serious about it, and she just knocks him down completely. (Like when Ben asks if he's her date, and she gives him the 'wtf as if' face. Or when he talks about not having a girlfriend and she's "It didn't cross my mind" and he's all sadface! "Not for a second?" etc etc I could go on.) In the beginning she gives him so many things that he - understandably so - takes as evidence of her disinterest, and this is what makes it even more difficult, I think, for him to get his head around the later flirting and the sushi date etc. He's formed this solid idea that Alex just wants to be his friend, and any information he gets that counters this idea just doesn't compute.
Of course, now I want to punch Alex in the arm too, because like I know we've discussed IT WAS NEVER ABOUT HER NOT WANTING A RELATIONSHIP WITH TONY. It was only ever about her not wanting a relationship period, which is also completely understandable given her circumstances. All those times when Tony thought she was saying 'I don't want you', all she was really saying was 'I don't want anyone, I'm not ready.' Argh!
(My hand hurts from punching the two of them repeatedly now.)
she'd take extra care to pick one where she looked especially sexy
Of course she would, come on! Girl has a game plan, by that stage. She knows exactly what she's doing.
wait, this stupid layout uses tinyicons, I can't read what your icon says at the top. I can get the 'it's already tomorrow in Australia' part, but what's the rest? Anyway, it's cute and highly appropriate, so congratulations.
Oh good. I'm so glad you agree on the live watching. I personally don't care if it takes ages and is really time consuming, I want to do it! We've only got such a limited number of eps that it seems criminal to neglect any of them. Plus they all contain at least a couple of epic Alex/Tony moments, and we wouldn't want to miss those. I'm already excited for tomorrow morning/tonight for you(?) and the squeeing I'm going to be inflicting upon you over how cute Tony looks in his preppy jumpers. Plus 4.03 has what is apparently your fave Alex screencap moment - where she's looking off to the side and up and all emo/introspective/curious!face in Tony's weird season 4 flat. It is important that we don't miss important things such as these.
I think I shall ignore it until it actually happens
AGREED. It's too horrible. Let's live in denial for just a while longer.
You can only say shit like that because you don't have a weave she can pull.
I know. But you know what? I've so got ghetto!Alex on my crew. She's ready and willing to mess up that bitch when I give the word. And, like you said, everyone including cannibalistic cray-cray psychopathic murderers is scared of ghetto!Alex.
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