I've Finally Finished DS9

[meddow]

So, a bunch of misfits, failures, outcasts and emotionally scarred officers ended up on a rundown space station orbiting a war-torn planet that nobody really cared about. Although it was a less than desirable assignment, that rundown space station through a series of events became the most important piece of real-estate in the galaxy, and the

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[selenak]

Hooray, you're done! And yes indeed, while I love other incarnations, too, DS9 is the best overall.

Sarah Sisko retcon: see, this ties directly into my big issue with the Prophets. Because what happened to Sarah was rape, pure and simple. Apparantly she never wanted to be with Joseph, or to have a child. The Prophet took over her body and forced her to both. And yet we're supposed to regard the Prophets as the good guys in their fight with the Pagh Wraiths. I can't see any moral difference between them, and this is why I think B5 did the same thing much better with the Vorlons and the Shadows, where the solution is to get rid of both.

My way of dealing were two drabbles:

Cold Heaven

Second ComingThis being said, I do adore "Treachery, Faith and the Great River", and I love the way various types of belief are dealt with here, including Kira's in the Prophets

[meddow]

The Prophet took over her body and forced her to both. And yet we're supposed to regard the Prophets as the good guys in their fight with the Pagh Wraiths.That got really frustrating towards the end. Didn't help that the majority of those Pagh Wraith cultists seemed harmless and actually like quite nice people. I haven't seen B5, but Sisko rejecting the conflict and ending it by destroying them both, that would have been a better ending. Of course Bajor would never have forgiven him - that could be his only sorrow thing. Or, some kind of indication of what the future would be like if the Pagh Wraiths were freed would have gone a long way to making me more sympathetic to the Prophets = good idea (Then again, I'm reading the Millennium trilogy of DS9 books at the moment, which does something like that, with the Pagh Wraith following Bajoran Ascendency lead by Kai Weyoun out to bring about the end of the universe, but even with that, I still don't feel that the Prophets are the good guys. But then, there are some scathing criticisms of

[selenak]

Millennium trilog: I thought they were aiming for more ambiguity about the Prophets when I started that reading this, too, she says meaningfully. Also I do like the authors. However, even if I hadn't just thought it, books are books, and tv is tv, and with Star Trek while I like some of the tie-in novels muchly, I never took any of them as canon. Only what's on screen is real, so to speak.

There is some Sisko in Roslin as well, yes. Back when BSG's first season had ended, there was a lot of Roslin antipathy (no, really!) because she was accused of coming between Adama and Starbuck and of being crazy to follow her visions, and I remember writing a comparison to how people reacted when Sisko, a male character did similar things.

Link to Chimera debate of uncomfortable subtext: the start of debate and a more detailed explanation of the central argumentForgot to add the last time re: why the Founder surrenders after linking with Odo: to be honest, I never thought it had anything to do with Odo/Kira at all. I thought it was because Odo

[meddow]

Only what's on screen is real, so to speak.

True. It's too late to fix things if it has to be done in a book. I do have the habit of treating tie-ins as canon if I decide I approve of the development (I haven't read enough of the Millennium series yet to make a decision either way).

londonkds makes a very compelling case. That subtext is certainly there and really, its not the only fail on behalf of the writers, what with so many characters in the 'evil' mirror universe being bisexual and the implications of that. Still, in the case of Chimera, to me it doesn't seem to be deliberate though, just unfortunate.

I forgot to mention the cure in my little analysis :) Although...

You do remember the Founder telling Weyoun in the s6 occupation arc that she'd give the entire Alpha Quadrant if they get Odo back, Weyoun thought she was kidding and she gave him A Look?I remember that bit, but not its placement and it really confuses me. Did that happen before or after Rom was sentenced to execution? Because it seems negligent on behalf of Odo not to

[erinpuff]

yay for getting Damar into the Benny Hill universe

LOLLLLLLLL I think you mean Benny Russell. Though that would be interesting... O_o

I can't be objective about Ezri because I find her really attractive. Especially in that mirror universe episode. :o

That gif reminds me that I'm the same height as Aron Eisenberg (so he's taller than me with the Nog head on). D:

(I was so sad O'Brien never told Bashir he loved him)

Me too! :(

[meddow]

Lol. Brain short circuit. Interesting would certainly be the word for that crossover.

Mirror!Ezri was a lot of fun until she decided to redeem herself. I wouldn't have minded if she stuck around.