Re: ummm... ummm yourself.diisopropylaminAugust 28 2004, 06:41:16 UTC
Maybe _YOU_ should read the teachings. It clearly states that when you come across a person who is _NOT_ Muslim, you are to try to convert them, then if they don't convert, you cut their throat or behead them. Get your facts straight. Oh yeah, I'm not talking about my ass. That is straight from the mouth of my friend Samir Kamkar, an Iranian born man whose mother fled Iran to escape torture from the Grand Ayatollah there. He has denounced Islam for the sole reason of the barbaric nature that it puts forth. Last time I checked, it is one of the _FEW_ "religions" that actively uses children as cannon fodder. This so called religion of peace is behind 14 of the worlds 16 Major conflicts all of which have death tolls reaching into the tens of millions of innocent lives. Stop leaching your knowledge from the special interest groups that want us all to "accept the muslim for their differences". After all this is america right, everyone has freedom of religion and congress shall not endorse any one religion over the other. That's find and dandy, Just like the Koolaide Drinkers of Jim Jones.
Re: ummm... ummm yourself.twizzzlerAugust 28 2004, 06:51:11 UTC
yeah in america you have freedom of religion. not in iraq! have ya looked at iraq lately?! it's a third world culture! they are no where near as evolved as many other countries. lots of religions have evolved. there's has not. I lived nextdoor to the largest iraqi/muslim population in our entire country. I'm not stupid. all I was saying was don't hate an entire culture for what they were brought up as. if you hate them. then it's ok for them to hate us and for the to find reason to be ok with the killings of all those soldiers and civilians. damn, no need to be a fucktard just cause you're close minded. when you've witnessed such hypocracy as refugee iraqis and muslims marching the streets of dearborn MI over the fall of sadam only to later still want to practice their muslim religion. then you can talk to me.
Re: ummm... ummm yourself.meboeAugust 28 2004, 08:29:42 UTC
all I'm saying is... the world would be a better place without those sick fucks... so why not level their country? after all, they are trying to level us. here's a helpful reminder... 9/11!!!!
Re: ummm... ummm yourself.meboeAugust 28 2004, 15:48:41 UTC
fuck the news, CBS and CNN are ran by fucking liberals! what do you think they're gonna show you?! Of course they're gonna say Saddam had nothing to do with it. So you honestly can't say Saddam had NOTHING to do with terrorism? Even though he might have not helped destroy the WTC.
Re: ummm... ummm yourself.twizzzlerAugust 28 2004, 18:36:14 UTC
have you ever watched or read news from another country? iraq should not have been the first place that we went to on the so called war on terrorism. there are many many soldiers over in iraq who can for the life of them figure out wtf they are stuck there for. they know where terrorism threats are much stronger and iraq isn't one of those places. but this still doesn't exactly leave room for a person to "hate" all muslims. but whatever. your point of view. your opinion. that's cool.
Re: ummm... ummm yourself.diisopropylaminAugust 28 2004, 21:10:39 UTC
Perhaps you didn't read what I said. I am not at all close minded. I clearly stated that my MUSLIM friend, or shall I say /former/ muslim will point blank tell you how cruel that religion is. It was may have started out "clean and shiney" but it has been tarnished by over 800 years of extremist thought and practices. Yes, there are good muslims, however they are in the minority now. Pay attention to something other than the damn Mass Media in the United States. I'm not even a natural born American. Maybe YOU should open your mind to the harsh reality. My family was slaughtered by Muslims in Romania and the Ukraine. So don't tell me how peaceful these damn animals are. Not ALL muslims. But the majority view All other cultures as evil. So get a grip on your facts and stop sniffing that damn glue they gave you in public school.
Re: ummm... ummm yourself.twizzzlerAugust 28 2004, 22:49:00 UTC
I'm sure I'm much older than you as far as you last comment goes. I don't pay much attentiont o US media. I read foriegn media because it tells the truth way more. step down from your soap box dude. we all have family and friends being killed in this shit. all my point was is that they weren't worth the effort of meboe wanting to "hate" them all.
Re: ummm... ummm yourself.diisopropylaminAugust 28 2004, 23:01:40 UTC
Age is irrelevant. We all have family and friends being killed in this shit? What shit? The occupation and reconstruction of Iraq? Perhaps you mean we ALL have family being killed by the civil wars in Eastern Europe. I'm not sure I know what we ALL means. The point is, and will remain true because it is based on factual events.. is that the vast majority of Sephardic Muslims, hate ALL other cultures. It deals with us being immoral in their eyes. To them, the simple fact that we allow women to take part in politics, to be equal with their male counterparts makes us weak and ungodly. To them women are lower than the livestock they own, if you don't believe me, fly over to Saudi and ask one. On a side note, I really doubt he hates them all, just as I said, the vast majority. The same exact way the vast majority of them hate us. They have for 1200 years, you think allowing them to worship Allah in this country is going to change that? They want this country to be a Muslim state, just the same way they're doing things in Canada and Great Britain. Also, I came to the states in 1974.
Re: Foriegn Media.diisopropylaminAugust 28 2004, 23:07:28 UTC
Their news is just as biased about them as ours is about us. You really need to open your eyes. The best news is news that is passed on by people that are directly affected by the situations. Example Given : Maher Odeh. Palestinian man whom I've been friends with for 20 years. Ask him about Islam, I'll even ask him to join this conversation and YOU can call him in Haifa, Israel. Ask him how Islam is practiced and their views on women and Western/Non Middle Easter culture. If you think for one second that the majority of Muslims are peaceful, then why don't the majority of these "peaceful" Muslims speak out against the fanatics? Because the fanatics will kill them the same way they kill Palestinians who do not take up arms against their Israeli cousins in Haifa. Grow Up. I've been around too long and seen to much of what both sides of the Atlantic have to offer.
By the way, You have yet to notice that I have not condoned hate in any way. I just put forth the common sense idea of keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. Trust no one.
Oh yeah, I'm not talking about my ass. That is straight from the mouth of my friend Samir Kamkar, an Iranian born man whose mother fled Iran to escape torture from the Grand Ayatollah there. He has denounced Islam for the sole reason of the barbaric nature that it puts forth. Last time I checked, it is one of the _FEW_ "religions" that actively uses children as cannon fodder.
This so called religion of peace is behind 14 of the worlds 16 Major conflicts all of which have death tolls reaching into the tens of millions of innocent lives. Stop leaching your knowledge from the special interest groups that want us all to "accept the muslim for their differences". After all this is america right, everyone has freedom of religion and congress shall not endorse any one religion over the other. That's find and dandy, Just like the Koolaide Drinkers of Jim Jones.
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Damn Red Diaper Doper Babies.
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So you honestly can't say Saddam had NOTHING to do with terrorism? Even though he might have not helped destroy the WTC.
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There is a christian population, muslim, and some other sects.
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On a side note, I really doubt he hates them all, just as I said, the vast majority. The same exact way the vast majority of them hate us. They have for 1200 years, you think allowing them to worship Allah in this country is going to change that? They want this country to be a Muslim state, just the same way they're doing things in Canada and Great Britain. Also, I came to the states in 1974.
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