Those are to do with character and film right issues. Throughout the 80s and 90s Marvel sold the film rights for its most popular characters such as Spidey, the X-Men and Fantastic Four to various movie studios. The way the deals were struck meant that unless films are actually made in a set number of years, the film rights revert back to Marvel (which is why Daredevil and Fantastic Four reboots are happening, as well as why X-Men and Spidey have been getting such rapid 'reboots').
Essentially, Spiderman belongs to Sony, and the X-Men as well s the Fantastic Four are owned by Fox. Since Marvel Studios can only work with the characters which they actually have the film rights for, that leaves us with the Avengers cast that we have, and very little hope for cinematic crossovers.
From what I've heard Dr. Strange and Deadpool are also with Fox. On the other hand, Kevin Feige has stated that it is possible for the Scarlet Witch and (someone else) to appear in both Marvel and Fox movies due to the way the contracts were written.
However considering everyone knows everyone else in comic canon, fan crossovers are inevitable and fantastic. 8D Apologies for rambling.
Td;dr: Spidey and FF's rights are with Fox and X-Men with Sony, Marvel Studios don't own them, so can't use them.
Hm, I imagine it would always come down to the issue of money and how much these companies see themselves gaining and losing.
The thing with Spidey and the MCU is that not all types of cross-promotion is mutually beneficial to the same level. Compared to the Avengers franchise, which is now without a doubt a top-of-the-line money making machine, public reception to the Spidey reboot is not guaranteed. All things considered, if Marvel Studios really wanted a Spidey cameo, I think FOX would be more than willing with the right offer. But Marvel probably would not want to ask.
A Spiderman cameo means that the Amazing Spiderman movies would be part of the MCU, and it would create issues not only over in-universe canon, but also raise all sorts of hell over profit splitting in future films, should the character be required for anything more than a cameo.
Fans of Spiderman are likely to all be fans of the MCU already, and keping in mind that the Spidey franchise itself is actually MCU's competition, Marvel Studios really has no real reason to give the Spiderman reboot the level of free promotion that having him would bring. Cross-promotion means that both sides benefit, however letting Spidey into the MCU is more the equivalent of giving FOX free money and advertising than anything else.
Of course, if the main Marvel company is to get a share of the profit from the Spiderman reboot, then that would be extra incentive for them to want it to do better, but from what I recall (and I might very well be wrong) they really don't get much, if any. Not to mention they'd probably prefer if the reboot failed so they can possibly buy their character back. This means that Marvel Studios has no reason to want Spidey, their competition, in the Avengers/MCU. Unless FOX has really little faith in their own reboot as well as tremendous confidence in the bumping power of making Spiderman an Avenger, they have no real reason to ask either.
It can be done, but I really doubt either company is going to find enough reason to actually put in the ridiculous amount of required effort to make it happen.
...Good lord I like to ramble, here's a condensed version below.
TL;DR Avengers is doing well while fate of Spiderman reboot is uncertain. Considering they don't really make money from making the Spidey reboot a success, (and probably would prefer the character back in their hands), Marvel Studios has no real need or reason to give Spidey free promotion in their franchise.
Having Spidey in the MCU would also raise questions over how to split profits, and we all know that money (and everything that makes it) is to be hoarded, not shared. 8)
This is really all personal opinion and conjecture, who knows what might happen. I'd be ecstatic if Spidey did become part of the MCU. :D
By way of interesting developments, currently Sony is definitely interested in cutting itself a piece of the MCU pie. (Apologies! I remembered the ownership completely wrong, Spiderman is at Sony and the X-Men, FF (and Daredevil) are with Fox!)
However depending on how well the movie itself does it can go either way. Early reviews seem promising, and if Marvel is truly interested, it may be hard for them to agree on the exact terms. Fox might even think Spidey good enough to stand on its own and just let Spidey be its own self-contained franchise. But things are looking a little more promising than before! :D
Essentially, Spiderman belongs to Sony, and the X-Men as well s the Fantastic Four are owned by Fox. Since Marvel Studios can only work with the characters which they actually have the film rights for, that leaves us with the Avengers cast that we have, and very little hope for cinematic crossovers.
From what I've heard Dr. Strange and Deadpool are also with Fox. On the other hand, Kevin Feige has stated that it is possible for the Scarlet Witch and (someone else) to appear in both Marvel and Fox movies due to the way the contracts were written.
However considering everyone knows everyone else in comic canon, fan crossovers are inevitable and fantastic. 8D Apologies for rambling.
Td;dr: Spidey and FF's rights are with Fox and X-Men with Sony, Marvel Studios don't own them, so can't use them.
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The thing with Spidey and the MCU is that not all types of cross-promotion is mutually beneficial to the same level. Compared to the Avengers franchise, which is now without a doubt a top-of-the-line money making machine, public reception to the Spidey reboot is not guaranteed. All things considered, if Marvel Studios really wanted a Spidey cameo, I think FOX would be more than willing with the right offer. But Marvel probably would not want to ask.
A Spiderman cameo means that the Amazing Spiderman movies would be part of the MCU, and it would create issues not only over in-universe canon, but also raise all sorts of hell over profit splitting in future films, should the character be required for anything more than a cameo.
Fans of Spiderman are likely to all be fans of the MCU already, and keping in mind that the Spidey franchise itself is actually MCU's competition, Marvel Studios really has no real reason to give the Spiderman reboot the level of free promotion that having him would bring. Cross-promotion means that both sides benefit, however letting Spidey into the MCU is more the equivalent of giving FOX free money and advertising than anything else.
Of course, if the main Marvel company is to get a share of the profit from the Spiderman reboot, then that would be extra incentive for them to want it to do better, but from what I recall (and I might very well be wrong) they really don't get much, if any. Not to mention they'd probably prefer if the reboot failed so they can possibly buy their character back. This means that Marvel Studios has no reason to want Spidey, their competition, in the Avengers/MCU. Unless FOX has really little faith in their own reboot as well as tremendous confidence in the bumping power of making Spiderman an Avenger, they have no real reason to ask either.
It can be done, but I really doubt either company is going to find enough reason to actually put in the ridiculous amount of required effort to make it happen.
...Good lord I like to ramble, here's a condensed version below.
TL;DR
Avengers is doing well while fate of Spiderman reboot is uncertain. Considering they don't really make money from making the Spidey reboot a success, (and probably would prefer the character back in their hands), Marvel Studios has no real need or reason to give Spidey free promotion in their franchise.
Having Spidey in the MCU would also raise questions over how to split profits, and we all know that money (and everything that makes it) is to be hoarded, not shared. 8)
This is really all personal opinion and conjecture, who knows what might happen. I'd be ecstatic if Spidey did become part of the MCU. :D
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However depending on how well the movie itself does it can go either way. Early reviews seem promising, and if Marvel is truly interested, it may be hard for them to agree on the exact terms. Fox might even think Spidey good enough to stand on its own and just let Spidey be its own self-contained franchise. But things are looking a little more promising than before! :D
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Thanks for the explanation!
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