I should be showering or working, not talking about this, but what are you going to do?

Apr 09, 2010 11:59

banerfee: So, Justice Stevens is retiring

Rumor has it Elena Kagan is the frontrunner for his seat

me: I want another woman

banerfee: Don't we all?

me: I really hope it's a woman
11:29 AM
I'm scared someone will be like, "nah, not important, we already have two out of nine"

I'm rooting for Elena Kagan

and I'm glad 2 out of 3 are women
11:30 AM
banerfee: RBG's getting quite old.

me: Or Diane Wood

banerfee: And she has cancer.

me: DNW Merrick Garland tho

ick

I want Diane Wood
11:31 AM
OMG I really want Diane Wood

or Elena Kagan
11:34 AM
banerfee: Either would be good.

me: Really don't want Merrick Garland though
11:35 AM
I don't think it's sexist of me to want another woman on the bench

my uncle is kinda steeped in male privilege, he was all like, "you should go for the best candidate"

and I was like, "forget it"

banerfee: Given that a lack of perspective in an institution like the Supreme Court can be a crippling flaw, I would argue that a qualified female candidate would have quite an edge at being the "best" candidate.

If "best" means "what's best for the court in its ability to make balanced decisions representative of the American populace", then another female justice would definitely be "best"
11:38 AM
me: but we should be ~objective

we're post feminist!

what if the man is truly more qualified than the woman?
11:39 AM
aren't you just being sexist? why must it be a woman?

banerfee: At that extraordinarily high level of expertise, there's no quantitative way to assess qualification.

me: that's a good answer

that's what I said
11:40 AM
I was like, "come on, really? they're all qualified."

banerfee: There is no "JudgeScore", of which Diane Wood has 90.7 and Elena Kagan has 88.3 and the other guy has 93.5

All candidates fall within the reasonable limits of qualifications for a Supreme Court justice.

me: right, you're either qualified or you're not
11:41 AM
banerfee: At that point, as with so many Court appointments, it comes down to politics.

me: but OMG, we'll have THREE women on the bench!

aren't two enough?

we're turning into a she-ocracy

thank God the female shortlisted women are white
11:42 AM
banerfee: 4.5 would be ideal, but 3's a good start.

me: we wouldn't want the court to be dominated by ~Sistahs or feisty Latina mamis?

actually, 5

women are fifty one per cent

banerfee: On the one hand, I don't think that a 51% popular majority should translate to a 55% (and thereby deciding) majority in the SC.
11:43 AM
On the other hand, a 50% "majority" plus the Vice President was enough for the Republicans to push a lot of distasteful shit through the Senate from 2001-2006.

me: shrugs abortion rights may not be protected, but equal pay and domestic violence and stuff would be fair

and it's not like every other institution isn't skewed male

banerfee: At any rate, unless the presence a woman on the Supreme Court is considered a bad thing, there's no reason to fear the addition of more.
11:44 AM
*the presence of a

me: my ideal bench would be Ta-Nehisi Coates, Michael Kimmel, Amartya Sen, and...qualified liberal feminist Latino man

and as for the women?

banerfee: TBH I wish we lived in a post-gendered world where saying "hey, we have nine justices, who cares about their gender?" would not be overlooking a tremendous power disparity.
11:45 AM
And where a court of any nine people could be counted on to rule fairly on issues pertaining to those not of their milieu.

me: Vandana Shiva, Sonia Sotomayor, Diane Wood, and ...insert Black womanist here

banerfee: That said, we don't live in that world, so we'd better get some minorities and women onto that SC.

me: I've given up on my Mama getting that

//NB: "Mama" = "mother's brother", not mom.

banerfee: Not an RBG fan?
11:46 AM
me: oh, I forgot about her

oops

but she has cancer

banerfee: It's cuz she's white and you hate white people

me: who knows how long she'll last?

banerfee: cuz you're brown

me: Diane Wood's white

banerfee: SSSHH

me: but her last name is brown

banerfee: I'm making a false equivalence!

me: because wood is brown

so she doesn't count as white?

banerfee: Yeah that works for me

I can see that logic being used on Fox
11:48 AM
I'm working on a machine that will take harmful diseases from people all over the country and redirect them toward Antonin Scalia.

There are few people who inspire that level of malice in me; he is one of them.

me: what about Clarence Thomas?

I want him to be replaced by a Black man who "gets it"

actually
11:49 AM
banerfee: The bitch was asking for it!

me: this dude: http://www.racialicious.com/2010/04/09/yes-virginia-there-is-black-male-privilege/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:+Racialicious+(Racialicious+-+the+intersection+of+race+and+pop+culture)&utm_content=Twitter

banerfee: mean ... what

me: I want him on the SC
11:50 AM
L'Heureux Demi Lewis
11:52 AM
banerfee: I'd want him to have some experience as a lawyer, clerk, federal judge, etc. first :)

me: well I just meant someone who thinks like these people do

we're also talking dreams, so

banerfee: In that case, Melissa McEwan

me: yup

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