GOP wins in Massachusetts!

[matthiasrat]

I am delighted by last night's victory of Scott Brown for the Senate seat in Massachusetts. Not only will this likely mean the death of the gargantuan monstrosity known as the Health Care bill, it also means that the Democrats will have to ask themselves what's really important to them, and perhaps, it will even lead some of them to actually try

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[matthiasrat]

I am completely opposed to the legislation for several reasons. First off, if I understand the bill correctly, it is not that you would have insurance, it is that you would be required to purchase insurance or face a heavy fine. This will not help you financially in the slightest. It is more likely to make things worse for you.

Second, the bills funnels more money toward abortion providers and I think you know how strongly I feel about that.

Third, this wasn't about actually improving health care in America so much as getting the government more involved and calling it health care reform. If this were really about improving health care, it would not have come down to a "just pass something" mentality which is what this turned into.

Fourth, this will lead to increased costs in the health care industry. If we examine other countries such as England and Canada, we discover that they are trying to find ways to cut back, and the way they do this is to eliminate services. This has been especially bad in England. And we know this is going to raise costs because they had to use budgeting gimmicks to count inlays in early years while outlays didn't start for a few more years in order to say it was budget neutral or that it would save money. I call that plain lying.

So what does this bill do? It's going to create another beaurocracy in Washington, bilk taxpayers for more money, lead to increased denial of services in order to save money (saving lives is not on the agenda), lead to my taxpayer dollars being used to kill innocent children, and it was done merely so the Democratic party could say it had passed health care.

While I am delighted by Scott Brown's victory, the Democratic party used a parliamentary trick to pass Health Care anyway. I assure you I will not be voting for Democrats at any level for a very long time thanks to this (and other things).

I do not expect the entire bill to be repealed as such, and certainly not while Obama is in office. Like all big government/controversial laws, most of it isn't set to go into effect until after the next election. I do not know whether this will lead to his losing in 2012, but I do think it's going to cost some Democrats this November.

But if this law isn't seriously changed, it's going to cost all of us in the long run.

Dominus tecum

[pathia]

I have a job, they will be required to provide me insurance and have already announced they will do so by next year, before the bill even goes into force officially.

That is how it is helping me.

As it stands, I still use the ER as my doctor and will have to until things change.

[matthiasrat]

Then your employer is doing this to avoid paying fines later on. Still, you will be paying for it because the most likely outcome is that the employer will deduct money from your paycheck to cover the insurance. That's generally how employee coverage works.

You may see some short term improvements for yourself, but over the long run, this is going to reduce the quality and availability of coverage and health care in general.

Dominus tecum

[pathia]

ER != Healthcare It's emergency care. That's all I have now.

Free market price, do you know what that is? The latest quote I got was $1200 a month for a $5000 deductible and separate $1000 deductible on drugs. Over 50% of my take home income.

Paying it with my employer? Less than a tenth of my paycheck.

[matthiasrat]

Yes, I understand that this law is good for you in the short-term. And I'm glad your employer is doing the responsible thing and getitng a group rate plan for its employees. But I do not believe it will be good for anybody in the long term except government buearocrats. For the many reasons listed above.

Dominus tecum

[pathia]

I've nearly died, several times due to this. Shortterm is all I have left, unless something happens. I imagine this sounds self-centered, but I only just turned thirty. I don't want to die. Not from something in any number of other countries where I would have had care from birth.

Rescission of insurance contracts? I've had that happen to me three times in my life.
Once at 9months, once at 17, once at 18.

[matthiasrat]

I've never stated that reforms for the system wouldn't be a good idea. And there's undoubtedly some good stuff in the plan that was passed. But overall I think it's going to be a colossal mistake.

I'm sorry if I sound unsympathetic, I'm not. I just cannot do anything different than what I am.

Dominus tecum

[pathia]

No, I understand. I'm also glad to hear you say this. The general response I get from religious folks now a days are along the lines of the following

Make peace with God and let yourself go in peace, stop fighting to steal my money, you shouldn't steal to live. I would let myself die if I was in your situation

[matthiasrat]

The only "religious" folks I hear saying those types of things (I'd rather you die than I have to be taxed more) are those who worship at the altar of one political party or the other. They need to read their Bibles a little more closely.

Most religious folks I know oppose it do so for the reasons I've listed, especially the abortion one.

Dominus tecum

[pathia]

I see no evidence it'll fund abortions any more than the government already does, thus I am neutral on the matter. Especially when Obama did an executive order to further enforce the fact that it wouldn't

[matthiasrat]

Executive orders change President to President, administration to administration. When NARAL is happy about the bill and saying the order won't stop anything, then I, as someone steadfastly opposed to abortion, have no reason to trust that this order accomplished anything.

Further, no major Pro-life group was convinced by this act in the slightest so it's hard to suggest that it's really abortion neutral. That's my perspective on it.

Dominus tecum

[pathia]

The last two catholic hospitals I was in were tremendously enthusiastic about it.

[matthiasrat]

The Sisters of Charity in my Diocese also supported it. Our Bishop has forbidden them from recruitment until they have amended this violation of obedience.

Dominus tecum

[pathia]

Edit:

Sorry, that probably came across too harshly. I know the Church has helped you, I take that into account. But you should take into account the number of lives it has ruined. One of my cousins committed suicide a few weeks ago.

Why?

He had joined one of the lawsuits, because he was repeatedly molested and raped by a priest when he was younger, the priest is still practicing. The church, my relatives nearby, basically treated him as a nonentity and said he was a liar. He lost the innocence of his childhood and then the will to live.

And now we have a Pope in there that might have helped cover up these horrific acts.

What would happen if we had a President who could be shown to be involved with something like this as much as the Pope has? I don't think they'd be President for long.

[matthiasrat]

I don't discount what happened to your cousin or to you. But I see a Church that is doing a great deal to correct its past mistakes and to make sure these things do not happen again. And I see the media focus on Pope Benedict as sharks who smell blood in the water. I do not think he is guilty of covering anything up. I see a man who is willing to go out of his way to meet with victims and their families, all off camera, to try to heal souls and make amends for the wrongs that have been done.

I could go on but I won't. I don't think it does either of us any good at this point. The Church is filled with men and women who are very much like the rest of us, human beings. It is to He whom the Church points that I wish to know better.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this, Pathia, and for listening to mine.

Dominus tecum

[matthiasrat]

And don't worry about how it seemed to come across. We have known each other for many years now face to face. I know who it is on the other side of the screen.

Dominus tecum