What would the religious right say if Muslims came out with a game like this?

Dec 23, 2006 14:14

Things that make you go "hmmmmmmmm?"

http://dizzyditz.livejournal.com/210174.html

I always find it amusing when religion and borderline personality disorder meet. Or maybe moreso very, very scary. Yeah, that's what I meant.

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mattcanning December 25 2006, 02:04:40 UTC
We should most definitely have freedom of speech, and with that comes freedom to offend. I do find this game offensive, but not so much for the content itself, but moreso due to the fact that the producers are being very hypocritical. If Muslims came out with a game like this the religious right would simply flip out. Yet seemingly it is ok to advocate religious intolerance as long as it is being intolerant towards religions other than Christianity.

And that isn't fair.

And that is extremely hypocritical.

As for a game where freethinkers would convert and kill others - it would never happen. There is no doctrine of atheism or agnosticism and so there would be no such game. Freethinkers are underrepresented on death row.

Wal-Mart is also selling the game only in the 200 stores where it is selling well - I would guess that is in the bible belt.

Would Wal-Mart sell this book if it sold well?

http://www.amazon.com/Wal-Mart-Destroying-America-World-About/dp/1580082319

Some people were saying no - others were saying yes. Wal-Mart generally goes where the money is. It must be cool to make $300 a second.

One thing I have to say is that by all means a religion should sell it's agenda to people - absolutely it should - but not at the point of a gun! Like any good business, marketing is important. I can't possibly expect to market what I want and tell others not to do the same can I?

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ianfromvaya December 26 2006, 04:05:47 UTC
I agreed with you up until the:
"One thing I have to say is that by all means a religion should sell it's agenda to people - absolutely it should - but not at the point of a gun! Like any good business, marketing is important."

To some people religion is about faith. Please, don't lump all people of faith in the same category dude. Personally, as a Catholic (and well aware of the brutal history of the church, and for the most part doesn't believe in the institution of the Church... but thats another rant altogether) i don't want the Church spreading its seed everywhere. I know that the Bible says that one should "go forth and spread the word of the Lord" but, fuck, why should anyone have to have anothers beliefs pushed onto them. I sure don't want anyone elses ideas. If they believe in God; great. If they don't, cool. Faith is something that you have, or you don't really. Thats all.

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mattcanning December 26 2006, 21:31:49 UTC
A church is a business like any other. Certainly Future Shop is allowed to advertise its wares to the populace so why should a church not be allowed? A car salesman can be pushy - it might not be very nice, but let the buyer beware right? The point I'm trying to make is that any given business (or religious organization) should be allowed to advertise as much as it wants. Like I said, the drawing line is when force is involved or consent is removed. Children are also a special case, since a valid argument can be made that they are not in a position to consent to their actions.

You can put a sign on your door saying you don't want unsolicited visitors (door-to-door salesman including missionaries) much like you can put a sign on your door saying you do not want junk mail. However, when advertising faith is enforced by the state by the point of a gun, I do have a problem. As long as we have the choice to take it or leave it, I'm ok with it.

Here is a great quote to go along with what I'm saying:

"I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what Larry Flynt does. But, what I do like is that I live in a country where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine and read it if I want to, or throw it in the garbage can if that's where I think it belongs. Or, better yet, I can exercise my opinion and not buy it. I like that I have that right. I care about it. And, you should care about it too."

I can't possibly be in favour of Future Shop advertising to people and say it's wrong for a religious group to not be able to do the same. Where is the consistency in that?

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