A significant flaw in communist ideology

Feb 05, 2020 13:01

A thing that communism in the past definitely didn’t achieve - and which you could consider a task to rack one’s brains about for its adaption to the modern days and to the future: Freeing humans from the need to go working and earning money in order to finance a living ( Read more... )

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matrixmann February 9 2020, 19:22:03 UTC
I think here you have to see differences between varying mentalities in differing geographical areas, in differing communist states.
German mentalitity was like - you needn't really whip them into going to work, they did that all by themselves. Delivering quality in that also once was a virtue that came with it. Like - "if starting to do something, then do it properly and not just half the quality needed!".
I don't know how to put this... The English term "Honest Fritz" very much suits here as a description.
Of couse this attitude is a development - these days, those German quality virtues slowly disappear because of the market not caring about quality anymore, but quantities...

But - just as a comparison: As far as I already got it, in Russia you didn't ever start with nearly as good conditions. You maybe had your parts of the populace willing to work and do it properly, and then, on the other hand, you had your part of the population which wanted to live like the nobles - rich and living like in the lap of luxury without doing anything.
This part is also highly prone to corruption because they don't care however they achieve their main goal, just that they get there and after that, they live like "après moi, le déluge".

Early communism tried to start to change that.
That's why Stalin is viewed that controversially in his historical meaning - one fraction hates him, another supports his politics back then.
Because, under him, it was being tried to get it into the attitude of Russian population "don't soft-soap me, just do your fucking job properly!". To put an end this social culture of steady corruption and where everybody does Цапцарап in order to enrich themselves without regard for what it may do to the rest of the local community.
The point why he's despised internationally in this aspect is because there was so much force and voilence being used to achieve this.
But, at least, I understand it that way what he was trying to install in the heads of the population. He was trying to change the average Russian social culture - to make the country arrive in the 20th century, erase terrible shortages of the past which had climaxed at the end of the reign of the Romanovs and to lay down the mental ground for the country to maintain its state of "wealth" (seen from extreme poverty) which they had built since the beginning of the revolution.

With Stalin dying inevitably, in 1953, the main force for driving that forth extinguished, nobody picked this mentality fight up in that intensity anymore, so... old habits came through again, piece by piece. This "soft-soaping my lord, so maybe I can live in the lap of luxury as his loyal servant" and stealing whenever possible instead of getting honest and regard "wealth" as something that must be built by somebody in order to obtain it.

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