A significant flaw in communist ideology

Feb 05, 2020 13:01

A thing that communism in the past definitely didn’t achieve - and which you could consider a task to rack one’s brains about for its adaption to the modern days and to the future: Freeing humans from the need to go working and earning money in order to finance a living ( Read more... )

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maadmike February 7 2020, 21:02:36 UTC
Even though I was born in communist country and I was living in it for a while - I had not been taking all the communists doctrines seriously, we all were like playing games on all the levels, so I was never reading some fundamental books of Marx, Lenin or others, so I have no clue what communists were pretending they are going to. I think, the idea of communism was excellent for several groups - for Germans and Anglo-Saxons to get rid of Russia as the super power country, for Jews in Russia to get to the top, for poor Russians to change something in their lives but Not Germans, not British, no Jews, no poor stupid Russians, I do think, were never thinking far from their close goals. What people will do when they will not have a need to work…? Is it ever possible? When you have no need for money, money is getting cheap and with the laws of society other things are starting to play the role of values of change - pieces of art, time, health whatever and people will be working always. If you look on our days there are many jobs which people of past would have called not working…

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matrixmann February 9 2020, 18:34:36 UTC
I get in touch here and there with what's written in the "doctrines", or rather call them "the big books of this", but I never read them myself because - one reason is lack of time, another is: "All people who once start to read these don't do anything but quoting any random line from it in every life situation from then on.". And I don't want to turn into any of these, I feel like I've already had that in my life with someone else's words.

And... one thing in between that disturbs me very much is this making a God out of "work".
There are so many conditions in life that can render you unable to follow that - that make can "working" your least concern.
So, what's it worth - a system that bases your value as a person or creature not on money, but on your capability to perform a certain task or on the general skillfulness of your hands alone? Doesn't that aim for the same outcome?
If you don't have any of both - neither money, nor skill -, what then? You're going to get forced to something or excluded from society or executed for being useless?
All of that, I think the old doctrines don't answer in a satisfying way. It's because they're from former centuries. They're not adapted to a world where humans make their own performance superfluous. Or where the world will be so overpopulated that, if all would get a propper job, it needed the resoures of 7 planet earths to make that daily compulsion possible until death.

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