About privilege (The one who claims to see no flesh but only sees flesh)

Jun 06, 2018 11:29

"You tell me it's racism / sexism if I talk bad about a person whose skin is darker than mine / who has different fuck habits than me ( Read more... )

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maadmike June 7 2018, 09:29:17 UTC
I am against racism but I am against hypocrisy hospitality welcoming unknown migrants, I remember very well how it was at nineties when our authorities were weak - the people from South were making gungs that all the Moscow police was afraid of them, they were doing everything they liked fucked and killed our girls and so on. Now the situation is much better only because our constant hard police and migration control work. So, every time I hear people are saying bullshit about hospitality I am telling give ten more immigrants to live in your home instead of your relatives after tell this kind good for nothing.

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matrixmann June 7 2018, 10:50:45 UTC
I have my troubles with this American definition of "privilege" for social groups too.
Just, how much privilege does it give to you if you live as a white person in an all-white society? Nothing. Sure, you would be worse off if you were not white.
But that doesn't change anything about the circumstance that still hierarchies are active for me as a white person in an all-white society. Do all people of this all-white society possess the same wealth and degree of education? No. There's still rich and poor in this society and white-skin birth changes nothing about that.
Being white-skinned doesn't change anything about that in this society that you can still be lowest end of the hierarchie for some reasons.
And then, if you are in this position, are you still so privileged? Are you then so much better off than a black person in generalYou've got one aspect of getting into trouble less in your life, but that's about it ( ... )

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maadmike June 7 2018, 20:22:04 UTC
I don't know what to say... the white privileges... yes, I'd heard this from Americans which are not white but I'd never heard this from white Americans which now are starting to fight for their rights to be treated as equal with other color people. I'd heard from some my former LJ friends that they are ashamed about some things done by white police in USA (like shootings by police the blacks on the streets like homeless dogs for ex.) and their grands were using slaves... you know I'm so far from this here in Russia after the Soviet Union heritage where everybody were equal and even now I am and people around me have no problem with immigrants, nations, each other we are looking on what man is at first place and after it could matter what is his nation, citizenship and so on. You could be here a rich Russian man but everybody will be treating you like a dirt if you will act accordingly and here people are thinking about what to do cause it is difficult to get a good name and easy to lost it. Though I had an acquaintance from East ( ... )

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matrixmann June 7 2018, 21:27:49 UTC
I don't get this mindset behind that either ( ... )

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maadmike June 7 2018, 21:56:52 UTC
"And so it comes that some people, again, are chosen (privileged) for a good life and most of the others simply aren't because they've been born with the wrong features for that (which they can't get rid of, of course ( ... )

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matrixmann June 8 2018, 10:21:49 UTC
You see, I even don't deny that things that this mindset addresses aren't factually there.
But, the way to interpret it, the kind of... pulling strings together and see the pattern behind them, what links all of them together, THAT seems like totally wrong to me. Drawing the wrong conclusions, you know?
It seems so incredibly biased with something and, on the other hand, like a totally manipulated way to put all these things into a context. Overall: Very much complacent. Circling around oneself and one's ego totally...

Understanding sociology, you know that's not the way the correlations are tied together. Links don't ask for either male or female, black or white, they're just about individuals, about single entities taking one turnout or another or another. The judgment about them at all is neutral, from the viewpoint of this network.
This is a thing these people already aren't - for whatever reason.

For example, sociology, as well as psychology too, already know that individual resources are the main deciding factor over one's ( ... )

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maadmike June 8 2018, 13:51:59 UTC
I agree with what you are saying, the nation doesn't matter much in a way of self-growth, getting rich, getting genius in some thin directed spheres and yes, the individuality does, which consists from million factors as media you were grown up, character and so on though I think you will not refuse the fact that nations have obvious differences. For example, Chinese and Japanese are workaholics and even taken out of their media or society to other countries they don't loose similar features, instead they are collecting together to double their native media. Africans are certainly not workaholics but they are talented in music. While I was communicating with students from Cameroon I was surprised to know that they have new style of dance every half of year and you have to study a new one it is a rule, even a guy forty years old was dancing. People living on the North are not that workaholics but talented in advising something new cause historically we were forced to change in that way - our media has been forcing us do it cause it is ( ... )

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matrixmann June 8 2018, 20:21:08 UTC
All that I don't deny too ( ... )

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maadmike June 9 2018, 08:36:45 UTC
When I was thinking about the nature of racism two decades ago, I'd came to conclusion that it based on a fear that your nation is disappearing. Yes, you can put an African or Indian into normal family having an opportunity to spend enough money on education and maybe in average we will have a normal European, but there is an view of thinking that it is not normal people were moving America forward at last centuries but quite active and incredibly talented Germans blood. Though, to get a little bit to the side of topic, I want to add that a dictatorship of law is necessary for moving forward such country as Haiti, Somali and others which Tramp had called an ass hole it seems. It is necessary to change at least two generations if engineers, teachers, preacher and others to make a stable society willing to go forward together but at the moment most talented people are fleeing wherever it is possible from mentioned hole unwillingly forming overwhelming majority of inactive, dull people ( ... )

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matrixmann June 9 2018, 10:49:12 UTC
"Though, to get a little bit to the side of topic, I want to add that a dictatorship of law is necessary for moving forward such country as Haiti, Somali and others which Tramp had called an ass hole it seems.You know what? That's stuff I know from communism. Really ( ... )

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maadmike June 9 2018, 12:04:40 UTC
Yes, absolutely agree with you, America is ruled by corporations, different sects, different national groups. USA being now what I absolutely don't want to see in my country, when corporations are spitting on simple obvious facts that drugs, living in credit, free weapon on the streets are harm for society. They legalize drugs and all other shit to make more money and when people are getting angree they are speaking up racism nonsense that African-Americans, Mexicans, even Russians are to blame... But it is their game and all we could do is just sit firmly in our armchairs and wait for a dollar colapse. There are millions of honest, kind people in America and I anyway hope that they will find a way to solve all their problems instead of everyday telling populism shit and thinking to a wall around while making everywhere revolutions, wars to help their economy.

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matrixmann June 9 2018, 13:16:00 UTC
Hm, I'd see the pathway of this from a different view.
Why do they start the process to legalize certain drugs?
It's capitulation before the structures that produce and distribute this shit - and some way also it's admitting the modern medicine that you can buy in the US (or not buy, if you lack the money, of course) doesn't have all the answers to all diseases that exist. Sometimes even the illegal drugs are cheaper than normal meds and they help, compared to the shit the doctor prescribes you.
Coming back to the original message - why do they have to give up fighting? Because the shit was floating around the streets for decades already, police couldn't get a grip on it (also because the public security sector was cut down and downer), and on the other hand, the various CIA operations in all kinds of countries in favor of their dirty drug business ( ... )

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maadmike June 9 2018, 14:58:06 UTC
Of course, everyone could has his own opinion and it is not right to simplify any question, though I strictly believe that it is not so difficult to clean any country from drugs, criminals and other disasters. Look on Philippines, China and other examples. What is the roots of drug's sell - money, people want to make money and letting them earn money fighting with anything you'll step by step will move society into wishing direction. While in USA people are dying with thousands per month from opioids they are buying in pharmacies, its is incredible! Nothing will convince me that it is a fight with illegal drugs had lost has caused such situation. It is clear that the people in authorities are making money on people's lives. You could easily stop using drugs starting the program of testing people with necessary laws made though again here has to be some society unity on a question - what people like to live without drugs in their lives or to see street full with brain damaged homeless guys, with their neighbors are dying here and there ( ... )

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matrixmann June 9 2018, 17:35:39 UTC
I do have my problem with that drug issue in that point what do people do who use it for medical purposes, who can make use of the new liberation laws?
They're nothing like the criminals and the usual broken addicts - and sure, they would take something else instead of pot to soothe their sickness symptoms. If meds were affordable (unconditional health care and health insurance needed!) and if there were meds on the market at all (hint at: put the research and the production of meds under the purpose of public well-being instead of commerce!) who helped them so that they didn't need the drugs for that sake.

I refuse to ignore this point as there are definitely people out there with medical conditions which usual illegal drugs factually help. And that for I have my problem with putting the drugs only under the attributes "bad" and "must disappear ( ... )

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maadmike June 10 2018, 09:45:25 UTC
"I do have my problem with that drug issue"

I do not have, with life realities maybe a little but drugs... The percent of people needed heavy drugs with their health conditions is less than one though the main amount of users is youngsters, people with mental issues and drugs wouldn't be drugs if they are not forcing people to use more and more and causing more mental, physical problems to the death as a redemption out of now useless, terrifying life. It is quite funny for me as the flagship of capitalism USA is going hand in hand with all the possible sins and drugs is a wonderful opportunity to make money - people are just garbage behind your high fence...

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matrixmann June 10 2018, 12:27:46 UTC
I don't know how high the percentage of people is who profit from drugs as meds, but still I see the benefits they get from it that normal meds don't seem to get them.
That's why I have my problem calling all this liberation tactics "making money".
Fuck, capitalists make money from everything they can... Of course they will!
But I can't ignore if the audience of that tactics all don't suffer the worst.
That's why I said "it's a hint at medication research needing to be more orientated towards the needs of the people". It also hints at the fact that the system currently supply all people with what they need - regardless now in that context that they possibly can't afford it...
So, you can't just go and outlaw all the drugs again and tell yourself everything's fine from that. You'll still have your clientele which pursues them because they have a reason to get them. And they're not the bad-asshole-junkie-type of people. They're the type of "if anything else would give me relief, I'd take it instead ( ... )

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