Techniques of war: Deterioration of infrastructure

Feb 03, 2017 23:09

Is there a different way to win a war than sending troops and artillery ( Read more... )

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onb2017 February 4 2017, 04:53:08 UTC
Agree. Only I think it is happening naturally, like when profit is the priority all these things happen naturally and then a good way to get out of inevitable crisis is to start war. Otherwise totally agree.

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matrixmann February 4 2017, 08:17:06 UTC
I think you can also use this as your primary war strategy.
It's rather your choice if you see that you can't get hold of an area by military force or by the plump visible suppression and fear.
Or, maybe that's expressed the wrong way: It's a strategy for when you have acquired a territory, to secure your own dominance over it if you know you can't get it under control the usual way.
Maybe, also if you lack the resources too to secure a propper occupation by the book.

I'm having a very special example in mind, but see if you get to guess it...

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onb2017 February 4 2017, 15:54:16 UTC
When the war is inevitable or during the war this strategy is exactly the case. Agree.

Nazi Germany?

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matrixmann February 4 2017, 16:35:27 UTC
Nope. Not that long ago. Still not a whole generation ago, you can still find enough people which can tell you first hand. If you've been a kid growing up in the 90s, it might be that you have also witnessed a little of its effects. - The knowledge to understand you got / could get to learn later on.

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onb2017 February 4 2017, 16:41:39 UTC
Afghanistan? Then it is true about Iraq and Syria. And also Libya.

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matrixmann February 4 2017, 16:50:37 UTC
No.
Just leaving that thing: It's a specific matter that I can argue as a German.
The link to my country is right, but the time is way more recent than this. - Not yesterday, not 5 years ago, a bit longer. Remember: "If you've been a kid growing up in the 90s, it might be that you have also witnessed a little of its effects."

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onb2017 February 4 2017, 18:13:01 UTC
You mean Eastern Germany?

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matrixmann February 4 2017, 18:25:41 UTC
There drops the penny...

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onb2017 February 4 2017, 18:28:40 UTC
Ok, it is really interesting because you actually witnessed it so I suppose you have first hand knowledge. But I can say the same about the Soviet Union vs Russian Federation.

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matrixmann February 4 2017, 18:41:06 UTC
"Witnessed" more or less.
At least the things I know and the knowledge acquired later (and still continuing to be made) combined make a fusion that I can say for myself "that's what happened".

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onb2017 February 4 2017, 20:09:25 UTC
I can say the same.

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matrixmann February 5 2017, 06:45:57 UTC
But what do you guess how many people know?
I mean, people that are none of your kind. People that don't live in the same surroundings like you. People that live, say, 500 km away in some Western nation?

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onb2017 February 5 2017, 15:38:44 UTC
Oh, totally, I see all the time the discussions online about such dumb misconceptions, they still truly believe that we lived in some prison, all wore uniform and they shot everyone for stepping out of line and we were so poor and run down, pretty much shacks and dirt roads. I sometimes cannot help but think: what kind of dumbasses believe that crap without verifying, meaning: do you people believe everything you are told? Those people consider themselves free-thinkers ironically.

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matrixmann February 5 2017, 17:34:06 UTC
You get the point. Similar thing I encounter online. Well, for the Germans, I think it's wavering, or rather the topic doesn't come up. Simply, West Germans can't pick it up as an example of comparing a few things to today's situation, but then that's it ( ... )

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onb2017 February 5 2017, 17:49:42 UTC
Yes, I agree. And in capitalism even if the system doesn't fail yet everyone can fail any day. Like if you get sick or your house burns down or you lose someone close. I heard lots of stories like this, people never suspected their life would change and something happens and they have no security any more. But they think if they are prosperous at that particular point, it will be guaranteed forever or try to not think about it. That's why I think religion is important to them. It is like good luck for them.

That is why I think it is sometimes comfortable for people not think about things like that and also they are afraid of changes.

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matrixmann February 5 2017, 19:44:04 UTC
Well, I think like I'm preaching that pretty often. How often anyone listens - I don't know. But in that I'm like a cleptomaniac that can't refrain from stealing - I can't stop it ( ... )

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