I wish this wasn't what I was posting about.

Jun 02, 2010 14:30

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matan4il June 2 2010, 14:08:55 UTC
You know what? That's the way it should be, few and far in between, verging on unheard of. *hugs* I hope that's the way it remains.

:( It breaks my heart. I'm reading one of the links you've posted and it's so disturbing, I've already picked up on several blatant lies (like that the Israeli soldiers opened fire from the helicopters, before landing on the Marmara - - no chance in hell that's the way it happened, and who would be stupid enough to shoot at people on a ship and then land there with only a paintball gun strapped behind their back? Certainly not my people). But people seem to be eating them up and saying if anyone's account isn't to be believed it's Israel's. Except, you know, it's the one that matches the facts and I've no doubt that further investigations will show precisely that.

I don't think that's sad at all. I have the 24 hour news on here as well. :) In my case it's probably not healthy, but I can't help it.

He did, huh? This is bad. :/ Either we won't be able to comply, which means possibly international sanctions against us (God, I hope not) or we will comply and then Hammas will get stronger and stronger until we have no choice but to re-enter the Gaza Strip. I really don't want that.

Stupid damn "activists", if everything went on as it was... I'm nto saying the situation is good in Gaza, far from it, but the blockade was keeping the Hammas from getting too strong, humanitarian aid is being delivered by Israel to Gaza on a weekly basis and the quiet in the meantime would have helped the proximity talks possibly allow Israel and the Palestinian Authority to reach an agreement which would ensure Israel's security won't be harmed while we end the blockade. Yeah, they sure helped the Gazans.

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miranda_skye June 2 2010, 14:42:19 UTC
Either we won't be able to comply, which means possibly international sanctions against us (God, I hope not) or we will comply and then Hammas will get stronger and stronger until we have no choice but to re-enter the Gaza Strip. I really don't want that.

I'm not going to claim any great knowledge but, yeah, neither is a 'good' solution. I don't know what the solution is

I think, to an extent, on the mainland we've forgotten what it's like to live with constant threat (the 2005 bombings excepted). A friend from Belgium was once with me at our local airport and she started complaining that there were no bins - now, to me, that was obvious (the IRA used to put bombs in bins), but it simply wasn't her experience, whereas one of my earliest memories is evacuating a shopping centre.

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matan4il June 2 2010, 14:55:23 UTC
Honestly? Either for the Palestinian people to realize that no good will come to them from a Hammas-led government and for them to vote it out of power (after all, they're the ones who elected them in the first place) or for Hammas to start changing its mentality when it comes to Israel. That might happen if they're faced with losing power (and terrorists always claim to be all about ideaology, but they're also about power, getting it and sustaining it). The third option is for the talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority to reach understandings which would including the taking down of Hammas. Those are the options I see, at least, but I'm not sure how realistic any of them are.

I think you're absolutely right. You know, this reminds me of being abroad and walking into a shopping mall store, baffled by why I wasn't searched when we entered. It was just so obvious to me that they should do that in case I want to bomb the place, that I totally couldn't understand why there was even a guard there if he's not going to do that. My dad had to explain to me he's there to make sure people don't steal anything. That's just not a concern in Israel, you know?

*HUGS*

PS - Meant to say, I know exactly what you mean. And I'm glad there's someone here that I get and who gets me. *mwah*

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