What's wrong with Christian Zionism? (If not now, when?)

Jul 24, 2014 23:00

I am deeply upset by the news of the world, and thus I'm posting something rather controversial. One of the driving forces in U.S. politics is Christian Zionism. I have many problems with that philosophy, if philosophy it can be called ( Read more... )

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eeyore6771 August 2 2014, 03:19:34 UTC

Very well said, Mary. Well done. I don't think most people really understand why some Christians are so enthusiastic about Jews moving to Israel.

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mary_j_59 August 2 2014, 04:00:42 UTC
Thank you!! I do wish these people would examine their beliefs; I just cannot comprehend how they think committing crimes against innocent strangers can possibly be God's will.

BTW, I have enjoyed your posts, especially about your little grandson. He's a doll! (If one can say that about a boy.)

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As an outsider... vermouth1991 August 2 2014, 14:38:56 UTC
I would really like to ask: at least among Catholics, what is the "general idea" of gauging God's Will? For instance, all those LGBT- and women-oppressing things are being done in God's name, what sort of "karma" is supposed to befall onto these bigots to maybe let them rethink their ways? This is rhetorical, actually, I've been thinking that they keep doing that kind of gleeful sh*t because nothing bad's happening to them therefore God must approve, nevermind that a lot of people are actively against them. Apparantly to them "Vox Populi, vox Dei." means squat. Well, there's always hell to look forward for them, I guess.

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Re: As an outsider... mary_j_59 August 2 2014, 16:07:35 UTC
Is this rhetorical? I'm not really being snarky; I'd like to know if you'd like an answer. The short answer is that Catholicism, in itself, is very varied. So you can't necessarily tell what a person will think about something when they proclaim, as I just did, "I'm a Catholic". There is, of course, some common ground. I'm not a theologian and I don't want to lead you astray, but these are the basics, as I understand them ( ... )

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Re: As an outsider... mary_j_59 August 2 2014, 16:22:13 UTC
Oh, by the way, we've rather strayed from the original post since Christian Zionizm isn't a Catholic heresy. We've got other problems, but not that one.

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Re: As an outsider... vermouth1991 August 2 2014, 23:52:43 UTC
1. By "this is rhetorical" i meant my own line of though and my own silly ruminations on Christianity, i'm very appreciative of your answers provided and would not presume to tell you what you should or shouldn't say, at least not here on your own turf.

2. I really did derail the thread, sorry; when my full reply comes I shall stick more to the topic at hand.

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Re: As an outsider... mary_j_59 August 3 2014, 01:57:21 UTC
That's okay! You didn't derail it very far. After all, my impetus for writing this post was and is the truly awful things people do to other people in the name of religion. And that, unfortunately, happens in all religions, mine included.

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