On Fathers

Aug 18, 2011 09:48

As I said earlier, suggesting that Vigarde abused Lyon as a means of explaining Lyon’s actions doesn’t sit well with me for a number of reasons. After reading a recently posted FE8 'fic, I have a little more clarity on why I feel this way, beyond the reason I already gave ( Read more... )

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xirysa August 18 2011, 15:22:19 UTC
Aurangzeb was fucked up, man.

Children turning out the way they do as a result of their parents' greatness is actually really fascinating to me. I mean, imagine what Ephraim's kids would be like. (Eirika's kids, though? Probably more... "Normal".)

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mark_asphodel August 18 2011, 19:20:59 UTC
IIRC, Jehangir had some... issues, too. Didn't he have a fight with Shah Jehan and take Aurangzeb and one of the other princes (Dara?) as prisoners?

I mean, imagine what Ephraim's kids would be like.

Depends on which princess Ephraim marries, I think. Eph/L'Arachel offspring with the whole Renais-Grado-Rausten mess to manage, a busy father and a "special" mother, might actually come off worse than the offspring of an Eph/Tana marriage.

Also, IMO it depends on whether we're talking EirRoute!Ephraim or EphRoute!Ephraim, as I take the two to be mutually exclusive.

Eirika's kids, though? Probably more... "Normal".

Agreed. Eirika has a more stable center, IMO.

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xirysa August 19 2011, 01:33:28 UTC
They all did, but compared to Aurangzeb, the rest were actually pretty great by comparison. :P

I'm not so sure about Ephraim's children by L'Arachel being worse off than if he married Tana; there's pros and cons to each scenario. (If he marries L'Arachel, I see their kids being raised largely by Dozla, essentially, to whatever extent he's able. If he takes Tana as his wife--which I also don't see as an exactly as a perfectly happy and functional relationship--I can kind of see, in a way, Innes taking "great interest" in his sister's children's upbringing. Though this is all based on headcanon--and an admitted bias toward Innes--so. :P)

Agreed on the routes, though. I've only really played Eirika's route, so I'm not as in-tune with all the dealings of Ephraim's route as I'd like to be. :P

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mark_asphodel August 19 2011, 01:40:41 UTC
See, I played EirRoute first and I thought Ephraim was a pretty well-adjusted dude. Raphi and a closer look at EphRoute changed MY mind in a hurry.

If he marries L'Arachel, I see their kids being raised largely by Dozla, essentially, to whatever extent he's able

My worry there is that Dozla's getting on in years, by FE standards, and the paired ending implies that Eph and L'Ara don't get married right away. And "Uncle Rennac" is just not good news for anyone.

I can kind of see, in a way, Innes taking "great interest" in his sister's children's upbringing

Word.

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xirysa August 19 2011, 02:16:55 UTC
Dozla's age is a huge factor, definitely; I see him doing whatever he can to help them, but in the end, all things considered, that's a pretty limited amount. :C

"Uncle Rennac" sounds like "Uncle Legault", except... less, um. "Ideal"? (Mostly because, regardless of who she marries, I see Rennac and L'Arachel engaging in... extracurriculers, shall we say? Now that I think about it, though, I can see this being true of every Magvel royal, to an extent--then again, most types of pairings in Magvel as a whole seem to work in general, so.... /shrug)

Oh, Innes.

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