The final straw

[mama_kimmie]

As it now stands Vanessa is out of this house for good. And just in case she's reading this i have a few things to say. Pertaining to our conversation today, you must think i'm as dumb as a brick. If you were the "1 out of 100" you would have known 6 months ago when you started them. So i will never believe that you didn't plan this. You are a

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[mamadaisy]

dont throw away the cruches their mine. and i need to return them. i asked her nicely for them and she didnt give them up. now fill me in in the nice details. i hate being out of the group. just e-mail me the story. cause i know i'll get something else from her. daisymama@cox.net
love ya kim!

Nikki

[grooviegirl]

my 2 cents, unbiased and third party. Get pissed? Don't really give a shit, just going to say my piece..

First of all, it certainly takes 2 to create the disaster that has happened. It is the responsibility of consenting adults to act like responsible adults. That obviously didn't happen, and it is both parties fault! End of story!

And secondly, the innocent in all of this has rights.. and if Nessa chooses to uphold those, you and Tom will literally be paying for this the rest of your lives.

Shitty decisions have shitty consequences.. and there is guilt on both behalves.

The only good thing that can be salvaged is.. will there be anything of substance learned? Or will it simply damage you and break you?

Food for thought. I take no sides, and won't.

[mama_kimmie]

I understand that it takes two to tango and Tom has been punished for his part in all this. But since she apparently had a thought that she could or wasnt taking her pills properly (which I tend to think is the case) then she should have discussed this with Tom. In my opinion she didn't give him a choice. She was only thinking of herself.

[grooviegirl]

You are missing the point. If Tom didn't want to create another child, he should have worn a condom each and every time he sexed her. Other forms of contraception aside....

I am married, and when we had sex (when things were happier) we have always used condoms above and beyond whatever else was used..

It is simply a matter of responsibility..

and I assure you, every single party concerned in this sad situation is about to have to toe the line and deal with the reality.

Tom has been punished? He isn't a child. Tom needs to start figuring out how he is going to help deal with this.

[mama_kimmie]

Vanessa has said she wants nothing to do with Tom and she doesnt want the baby to have anything to do with him either. We shall see. Besides I have seen her parenting skills. Scary.