Dec 11, 2010 20:19
reborn (the series),
terrible things are happening,
hipster mcnametwin,
domo arigato mr kozato,
lambo,
we got motherfuckin primos,
the plot thickens,
yay new chapter,
makeste is not reliable,
tsuna,
chrome,
tonight we fangirl in hell,
boobs mcawesome,
character rant
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And I guess I should have phrased that Tsuna rant a little better, because I do get what you're saying. Like I said, it's not that his views on the mafia in general are particularly sparkly (quite the opposite), but I do think that despite the fact that he's constantly complaining about how insane his own mafia family is, and despite the fact that he saw firsthand just how terrible the Vongola were in the past, he does have a somewhat naive view when it comes to the current family--Timoteo and Reborn and the like. It's because he's so determined to see the good in people, I think, that sometimes he overlooks or ignores the fact that these people were at one point in the past, if what Amano's hinted at is true, pretty vicious. Which is not really surprising, because this is the same person who willingly sort-of kind-of forgave/befriended/allied with?? lunatics like Xanxus and Mukuro. I think he does have a tendency to shy away the darker aspects of their nature and focus on the positives.
And on those occasions when we have seen him confronted with the darker side of the mafia, like during his succession test in the Future Arc, he doesn't like it at all and tries to block it out. Like you mentioned, his response to the vision he had during that test was to say he would wipe out the Vongola. Not change it, not try to atone for it; wipe it out. When Timoteo later pitched the idea of him trying to follow in Primo's footsteps and restore the Vongola to the family it originally was back before shenanigans fucked it all up, he refused. Graciously, and with a good reason (wanting to protect his friends), but he was still kind of running away from what was obviously a monumental if not impossible task, all the same. And I find it hard to believe that someone as empathic as Tsuna could make that decision if he truly did fully understand just how bad things were, and how much he, in the position of Vongola Boss, could do to prevent the mafia from creating any more future Enmas. That's all I was really trying to say, I guess.
and I thought Simon's motives were shallow around Target 297
lol, me too. I will give you an exact quote from my 297 post: Wow, really? "Rightful atonement?" Enma, suddenly I want to punch you really hard. At least Adelheid gave a real, non-bullshit explanation for attacking him. Geez.
sob, hindsight. I'm sorry Enma, I understand where you're coming from just a little bit better now. XD
I started to think WAIT THE FUCK UP. Maybe Enma looked so apathetic because he was still under shock from his sister's death. This made me feel HORRIBLE.
YES! YES ME TOO OH MY GOD. HE WENT AND PUNCHED EVERYONE IN THE GODDAMN FEELINGS, THAT KID. SO SNEAKY. And yes to everything you said about Enma having difficulty trusting Tsuna and then when he finally did take the leap and was betrayed o-oh man, I can hardly even read that part now when I go back to it. I don't know who the fuck to side with anymore; neither Tsuna nor Enma can really be blamed under the circumstances. IT'S ALL FUCKING SPADE'S FAULT. Sigh, this would be the arc where we finally get an actual competent villain. ;_;
DON'T KICK HIM FOR GOD'S SAKE LOOK AT HIM ._________________.
I actually like that he tried, presumably expecting his tough love method would snap him out of it the way it usually does, and instead it had absolutely no effect. When even Reborn can't get through to him, you know it's really bad.
And heh, I like reading your textwall comments (and posts! I just went back and looked at your last couple of KHR reviews and enjoyed them very much, though I haven't had a chance to comment yet), so it's all good, then. ♥
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I have always identified with Tsuna much more than with other shounen protagonists for exactly this reason. He actually wants to take the easy way out--the idea of that much power and responsibility terrifies the living daylights out of him. Instead of "I WANT TO GO OUT AND CHANGE THE WORLD!", he's just like, "I wish the world would leave me and my loved ones alone so that we could mind our own business without any more bad things happening to us!" And the only reason he keeps on getting dragged into these adventures is because it doesn't. But he's very reluctant about it.
...which is exactly why he could and I think still will in all likelihood make an amazing boss one day, and one of the many reasons why this arc excites me, because this situation with Enma is finally forcing him to face all of these issues that he's tried so hard not to face in the past. I think at this point, his character could go either way. He might continue to "No thanks I think I'll pass on the mafia" route that he's been taking so far, or he might finally take a step up after this and realize that the amount of potential good he could do if he tried to take up Primo's mantle and remake the Vongola just might be worth it, even if it means sacrificing the simple life that he wanted. Because that is where I ultimately see him heading, once all's said and done. I'm just not sure at this point if it will take the entirety of the series for him to reach that level of maturity, or if Amano is going to push him more toward that now (...or if this is, in fact, the final arc BUT NO THAT CAN'T HAPPEN LET'S FORGET I EVEN SAID THAT). My prediction skills are about as good as yours, I think. XD
Yup, I perfectly know those are "love-kicks" XD but still something inside me said "this is no moment for kicks, this is moment for hot chocolate, hugs and kisses."
Yeah, I totally agree, but you're right, Gokudera and Reborn (and Lambo) really aren't cut out for this sort of thing. A YAMAMOTO IS REQUIRED, I AGREE. Gokudera will try his best (and he might do better than we expect! He knows what it's like to be faced with the notion of "surprise, so it turns out your father, with whom you have always had a strained relationship with but still begrudgingly loved and respected, was actually a really terrible person who did a super-horrible thing to another person you care about greatly!", after all. Even if he found out YEARS AND YEARS LATER that it wasn't really true), but he's never been the best at comforting (since he usually starts to panic himself and some of that ends up coming through). But who knows!
...I know I'll be waiting for Adel's fight to end because I'll finally get what I'm afraid of since target 308. Cozart's death. Expect massive baaawwwing.
And I will be right there with you. ;_;
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