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fragrantwoods July 15 2014, 17:29:14 UTC
I really enjoyed last night, and my husband turned into more of a shipper than ever. There was too much win going on for one episode ( ... )

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gordon435 July 15 2014, 18:53:54 UTC
I think there's been alot of maturity all around for the team, though I would say that Buzz and Tao have always been a step ahead of the other men on that. I was contemplating the differences in the team dynamics between The Closer and Major Crimes and it totally hinges on the two women that have led the team. Sharon I notice isn't as tense and wound up as Brenda and I think there is where you get the differences in the team dynamic. The Flynn and Provenza humorous episodes in Major Crimes don't make them look like such dunces. In other words, Sharon isn't having to save their butts the way Brenda did ( ... )

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obsessive_a101 July 18 2014, 02:54:02 UTC
I totally support this comment (though I have NOT actually watched all of the Closer, I think you've explained the differences in team dynamics I've observed really well); Sharon and Brenda also have vastly different styles in leading - I'm not going to say if I think one is better (simply because that is a value judgement at the end of the day, and they deserve better than that), but I think it helps that Sharon is much more about "team-playing" and delegating and trusting her team to be mature, responsible adults, and I think they react thusly to her expectations? Would you say that's a fair assessment? :)

Anyway, I'm much more hesitant about work relationships, ESPECIALLY on shows (fanfic - I'm all for it if handled believably), but even when it's handled well/realistic, there's always so much potential fodder for imbalance in the dynamics of the show. *is recalling CSI and wanting to cry*

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gordon435 July 18 2014, 04:09:44 UTC
I agree totally, I've been re-watching the closer and thinking about how different the team seems individually and combined with each leader and Raydor is a more contemplative person and less reactionary than Brenda and the team seems calmer because of it.

As I said, I haven't jumped on the Shandy wagon yet but I'm willing to keep my mind open and see how it all plays out. I'm more riding the mothership track right now.

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dlcookie July 15 2014, 19:27:00 UTC
Can't unfeel things.....

Exactly. These people are well into their 60's. These are adults who know how to be adults, not 20 or 30-somethings trying to keep it all going. That can never be lost, IMO. They are professionals with far more years behind them than ahead of them, and they know how to draw the lines. They work. And I think you're right, Andy is becoming worthy of Sharon, and Sharon is becoming worth of Andy. It's a process of attraction long before it's acknowledged. The entire team has earned the right to be more self-regulating, and if Sharon is able now to send Andy where he needs to go, she's not going to do that less when she finally acknowledges those feelings to herself.

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kairos7 July 17 2014, 10:13:54 UTC
"Disclaimer: I've been in Andy's shoes...it never got me any special privileges or an easier workload, and if my paperwork was late, I heard about it twice!"

This is interesting. Nothing much, just someone who is very anti-workplace romance IRL saying this is interesting that it could work

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