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122 - WHOA THERE finally addressing some flood issues

Jan 31, 2010 16:19

I've been here for nearly two years now, and while others may have seen results, I have not. It's become clear to me that no matter what course I'd have taken, the end result would have been the same: they live. My men and I die. Perhaps, if I had been a better man-- by whatever metric you wardens measure it by-- I'd have had no second chance at ( Read more... )

west just kinda hates you all, my booooyz, i hate you too farrell, kind of a dick, i hate you jim

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Private- Have someone else's issues, too! inhumandog January 31 2010, 22:31:32 UTC

The Marquis expressed a wish for us to speak.

Private - YAAAY major_west January 31 2010, 22:32:50 UTC

Yes, he told me that as well. I won't do it if he's forcing you, however.

Private inhumandog January 31 2010, 22:34:20 UTC

He forces me in his play and forces me to work. But he does not force me to speak yet.

No, this was my choice.

Private major_west January 31 2010, 22:40:17 UTC

I see. Then I'm available to speak.

Private inhumandog January 31 2010, 22:42:33 UTC

I am not quite sure what he wanted me to say to you. I am assuming that he told you of the conversation we had? Or did he keep that from you?

Private major_west January 31 2010, 22:44:46 UTC

He said something about you feeling responsibility for my-- flood self's death, but little more than that.

Private inhumandog January 31 2010, 22:50:08 UTC

Yes. I do feel I am responsible for that. I believe he thinks that, by talking with you, that my guilt will simply...go away.

Private major_west February 1 2010, 01:13:22 UTC

Neither you nor Judas are responsible for my death. Sexby had intended to kill me regardless.

Private inhumandog February 1 2010, 01:22:03 UTC

It is not Judas I blame. If he had been hurt, it would have been my fault, as well.

Intention is not the same as action. Just because he intended to kill you does not mean that he would have followed through. I sent you there. I knew he would follow.

Private major_west February 1 2010, 01:41:45 UTC

I understand the sentiment; it's how I felt each time one of my men didn't return from their patrols. And the fewer their numbers, the greater each loss weighed upon me. It's something that, as soldiers and officers, we must cope with for the rest of our lives.

But in this instance, I wasn't a soldier; I was a volunteer. I didn't have to follow your orders, and I certainly wasn't unaware of the risks I undertook when I agreed to help Judas. I knew about Sexby, and I knew that as long as he had his item, he could find us. It simply didn't matter to me, so long as I could help a defenceless man escape tyranny.

I had no obligation to Judas except as a fellow Inmate. I would have done anything for my fellows, as they were... the closest thing I had to my men.

My priorities led to my death. If you hadn't asked me to help Judas, I'd have found another way to die.

Private- welcome to the Marquis' headache... inhumandog February 1 2010, 01:47:14 UTC

I do not care about your suicidal or martyrdom tendencies. That was not my responsibility or my business. The fact was...I sent Judas to you because I was already under suspicion.

And your death, inevitable or not, should not have been on my hands.

Private major_west February 1 2010, 01:49:53 UTC

They aren't my tendencies; don't mistake that man for me. I guarantee you, if I felt you were responsible for my death, I'd have told you already.

My death was on Sexby's hands.

Private inhumandog February 1 2010, 01:53:50 UTC

Fine. They were his tendencies. And yes, Sexby did deliver the final blow, but...

I do not know why this is even a discussion. I am starting to feel this entire exercise is futile.

Private major_west February 1 2010, 02:04:57 UTC

Then don't think of it as an exercise.

Six months ago, when I started the riot, one of my friends was attacked and tortured by the Master because she was in the wrong place, at the wrong time, and he took it as a window of opportunity. Several people died. My own Warden was shot. If I blamed myself for everything that happened while others were abusing the situation, I'd never get any sleep.

Private inhumandog February 1 2010, 02:12:26 UTC

So where does the responsibility rest? On the individual person? If they go along with what is said, then it is their fault?

If they are willing to do what is asked, then the blame rests solely on their shoulders, not the one who issued the order...or request?

Private major_west February 1 2010, 02:25:37 UTC

I believe it's different based upon the situation. If a man enters into a situation knowing full-well of the risks he's about to undertake and being under no obligation accept, then yes, I believe responsibility lies on his shoulders.

When somebody is dependent upon you, or ignorant, or... your subordinate, it's different. I will always feel responsibility for the deaths of my men, but they were my soldiers. I wasn't yours. The actions of a knowing volunteer and an insane zealot are not on your hands.

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