So, when the scientists get their details sorted out and can show, in plain language and with simple diagrams, how trans people were born into the gender they claim, the Dianic tradition will accept them? Or are they going by XX-only?
As genotyping becomes cheaper & more common, we'll know who's XXY or XXX or even XY with AIS; will they then be excluded from Dianic circles?
I can cope with any small group saying "we're focused on our shared experiences defined by (n)." I can cope with a larger group--a tradition--saying "our religion is for people of (n) category." (Women, believers in the Christ, those who've crossed the abyss of fire, people who trance-dance to the glory of Allah, those visited by Unpronounceable the Alien, whatever.) But they need to be willing to define "n" in a way that connects with other people's understanding.
Society's understanding of "woman" is moving beyond "menstruates and grows tits at puberty, or was born with a body that looks like it will." Dianic Wicca can keep that definition, but it'll face increasingly more resistance as that's not the legal definition anymore, and not the social one in many communities.
I suspect there won't be any one result; "Dianic" is not a trademarked term that requires registration with the Central Dianic Wicca Office. Any group can call itself Dianic, and some will be accepting of trans women while others won't; some will have more reasonable-sounding explanations than others. (Some explanations for "why don't you allow trans women in your rites?" could be "allow? As far as we know, there aren't any Pagan trans women within 200 miles of here. The question's never come up.")
So, when the scientists get their details sorted out and can show, in plain language and with simple diagrams, how trans people were born into the gender they claim, the Dianic tradition will accept them? Or are they going by XX-only?
As genotyping becomes cheaper & more common, we'll know who's XXY or XXX or even XY with AIS; will they then be excluded from Dianic circles?
I can cope with any small group saying "we're focused on our shared experiences defined by (n)." I can cope with a larger group--a tradition--saying "our religion is for people of (n) category." (Women, believers in the Christ, those who've crossed the abyss of fire, people who trance-dance to the glory of Allah, those visited by Unpronounceable the Alien, whatever.) But they need to be willing to define "n" in a way that connects with other people's understanding.
Society's understanding of "woman" is moving beyond "menstruates and grows tits at puberty, or was born with a body that looks like it will." Dianic Wicca can keep that definition, but it'll face increasingly more resistance as that's not the legal definition anymore, and not the social one in many communities.
I suspect there won't be any one result; "Dianic" is not a trademarked term that requires registration with the Central Dianic Wicca Office. Any group can call itself Dianic, and some will be accepting of trans women while others won't; some will have more reasonable-sounding explanations than others. (Some explanations for "why don't you allow trans women in your rites?" could be "allow? As far as we know, there aren't any Pagan trans women within 200 miles of here. The question's never come up.")
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