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[madtimes]

An interesting point for going to war. I slowly find my self being a bit more pro war. Probably far behind the power curve, as far as prowar goes. But damn the Administration has completly botched the job. Hope someone enjoys this as much as I did.

As a lifelong lefty of the commie- pinko-faggot variety, I was shocked to wake up one day and find

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[madtimes]

Not biting on the oil thing. ;P
Well technically we should owe it to the people of all countries, if we were the enabling agent into what ever evil dictator we might have helped put into power, we should help them out of it.
However that might be a bit on the lines of ideological, kind of like no war, hugs will solve the worlds issues, not exactly the same, but draws parallels.
On the lines of why we went into Iraq, can't say Iraq specifically, but I would agree with the point that Radical Islam right now isn't just reprimanding it's own people for living against their morals, but it's reprimanding the world (London Bombings, French bombings, WTC). And that should be our enabling agent to go to war with them. Why Iraq and not Saudi Arabia, that's probably politics. But the change needs to come.
How's that saying go, we can't be so tolerant to except intolerance. Unfortunately it has become such a thorn in our sides that it's starting to get infected, and we need to fix it. War will stop some of it, but a war on ideas needs to be happen along with it. I don't recall where I remember hearing it from but apparently the Israelis do this with the Palestinians. Rather then torturing them, they learn their ideas and values. With that they use those ideas against them to get said information from said captives. Sounds like a solid plan to me.

[hemlock_martini]

I agree with you for the most part. Hugs and diplomacy won't solve everything, and of course, neither will bunker busters. I pray it's not too late for a "hearts and minds" campaign to help smooth things over with the Islamic world; though I have a feeling it is.

What I would REALLY like is a Mainstream Islam movement to arise from all corners of the Western world, point to Islamofascism and say "look, this is wrong, killing people is specifically against the religion you claim to be defending, and all you are acheiving is to make it hard for the rest of us; not to mention the rest of the world. If you don't knock it off and try to join the 21st century, we will write you off as infidels, or worse; so just don't look to us for support." Unfortunately, that's only really happening in fits and starts here and there--a group of Western Islamic clerics recently issued a fatwa on terrorism; for all the good it'll do--and it just doesn't do anybody any favors.

I will say, though, that with the current administration so far in the pocket of the House of Saud (which, curiously, doesn't change the fact that I paid $2.60 a gallon at the pump this morning), it doesn't look like we're going to be pressuring the Saudis too much; and that's a shame. Their hands are bloodier than most.

[madtimes]

A fatwa isn't a "War on Extremism". But it is a step in the right direction to slow down the ever accelerating extremism of Islam.

As far as gas goes, go green! ;p