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An interesting point for going to war. I slowly find my self being a bit more pro war. Probably far behind the power curve, as far as prowar goes. But damn the Administration has completly botched the job. Hope someone enjoys this as much as I did.
As a lifelong lefty of the commie- pinko-faggot variety, I was shocked to wake up one day and find ( Read more... )
As a lifelong lefty of the commie- pinko-faggot variety, I was shocked to wake up one day and find ( Read more... )
The US was the last to fall in to the Allied cause. Were we "imposing our values" or just pitching in?
A bullet shot into a man's brain will teach him nothing about the values you preach.
"Bombs just make more terrorists." Really? We dropped more bombs on Vietnam than we dropped on Europe during World War II. Where are all the Vietnamese terrorists?
Because Vietnamese history widely regards the Vietnam war as just another period of occupation by another culture, seeing as how they had been previously occupied by the Chinese, the French, et al., etc. There's some bitterness and resentment in Vietnam now, but largely their attitude towards America is one of "live and let live." Whereas, Islamic young men who see their fathers die for a cause will see their chance at martyrdom and take up arms against those who they see as the oppressor. Martyrdom is hardwired into both Christianity and Islam (see the Crusades). Thus is terrorism self-perpetuated. It is an ideological Von Neumann machine.
You can kill terrorists (which, by the way, I'm fine with). But you can't kill terrorism. That's not me being pessimistic or anti-patriotic. It's a fact.
We should remove Saddam from power because we owe it to the people of Iraq
What do we owe the people of Darfur? What do we owe the people of Rwanda? What do we owe to the millions of people currently living under the rule of cruel despots who are orders of magnitude worse than Hussein? If you insist on saving a country from itself, where do you draw the line? How do you make the distinction? Does oil make a country more important? <---this line is heavily baited. Do not bite.
So if we have a choice between bombing the Middle East back to the stone age or seeking out the root causes of terrorism and looking at long-term ways to quench it, I choose the latter. I admit that it's harder, and there are fewer explosions involved; but seeing as how the whole Iraq situation has been so badly bungled, we would do worse than to try to stave the flow of blood than to run home with our tails between our legs and pray we never see another plane flown into a tall building on the news.
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Well technically we should owe it to the people of all countries, if we were the enabling agent into what ever evil dictator we might have helped put into power, we should help them out of it.
However that might be a bit on the lines of ideological, kind of like no war, hugs will solve the worlds issues, not exactly the same, but draws parallels.
On the lines of why we went into Iraq, can't say Iraq specifically, but I would agree with the point that Radical Islam right now isn't just reprimanding it's own people for living against their morals, but it's reprimanding the world (London Bombings, French bombings, WTC). And that should be our enabling agent to go to war with them. Why Iraq and not Saudi Arabia, that's probably politics. But the change needs to come.
How's that saying go, we can't be so tolerant to except intolerance. Unfortunately it has become such a thorn in our sides that it's starting to get infected, and we need to fix it. War will stop some of it, but a war on ideas needs to be happen along with it. I don't recall where I remember hearing it from but apparently the Israelis do this with the Palestinians. Rather then torturing them, they learn their ideas and values. With that they use those ideas against them to get said information from said captives. Sounds like a solid plan to me.
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What I would REALLY like is a Mainstream Islam movement to arise from all corners of the Western world, point to Islamofascism and say "look, this is wrong, killing people is specifically against the religion you claim to be defending, and all you are acheiving is to make it hard for the rest of us; not to mention the rest of the world. If you don't knock it off and try to join the 21st century, we will write you off as infidels, or worse; so just don't look to us for support." Unfortunately, that's only really happening in fits and starts here and there--a group of Western Islamic clerics recently issued a fatwa on terrorism; for all the good it'll do--and it just doesn't do anybody any favors.
I will say, though, that with the current administration so far in the pocket of the House of Saud (which, curiously, doesn't change the fact that I paid $2.60 a gallon at the pump this morning), it doesn't look like we're going to be pressuring the Saudis too much; and that's a shame. Their hands are bloodier than most.
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As far as gas goes, go green! ;p
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