I keep hoping it's just bored journalists and old polls, but alas

[madmoisellestar]

The idea that there are still people, deomcratic primary voters, holding out against Obama, potentially voting for McCain because they support Hillary makes no sense to me

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[rosered2318]

I like casting a ballot with nothing on it =)

[evergleam83]

I was watching a television program before, with a kind of roving moderator who spoke to a seated panel of young women who were having some sort of problem with their boyfriends - apparently, because the boyfriends had all slept with the girlfriends' mothers. And they brought the boyfriends out, and they fought, right there on television. Toby, tell me: these people don't vote, do they?

[icewolf010]

We were discussing exactly that exchange at our dinner table last night!

[madmoisellestar]

Yes. This is what I was thinking. This is often what I am thinking.

Why don't I have Toby icons?

Ooohh! Found one!

[evergleam83]

Please see keywords to this icon. :D

Can we watch West Wing, please?

[woodspider]

I understand the urge. I had a few moments during the primaries where I thought "If she wins, I'll just vote for McCain. Screw it."

but, at the end of the day, I kept coming back to "Well... no. I won't."

and especially not after the past month or so. McCain has become almost unrecognizable. I never expected him to level the sort of attacks he has. I never expected him to show the amount of contempt for voters that he has. I knew he was anti-abortion, but I never expected him to stand on a stage and insist that a "baby" is given rights at the moment of conception.

that's the part I don't understand. where is the crossover between a faithful Hillaryite and a voter willing to cast a ballot for a guy who believes humanity begins at conception (and will be appointing multiple judges to the Supreme Court)? who the hell are these people?

[madmoisellestar]

I completely understood the people who said in polls before the primaries were over that they'd rather vote for the other team than the other guy. When your guy has a fighting chance, that's both natural urge and rational tactic. I don't understand now that the primaries are over.

Maybe it's some desperate hope that lightning will strike at the convention if they just keep it up. Maybe? If the numbers flip back after the convention, I'll be okay with that.

If not, well, that's just really misguided and kind of offensive. Hopefully to the Clintons as much as to me or Obama or anyone else.

[woodspider]

what scares me is that the big argument from the Clintonistas was that Obama couldn't win. So I'm afraid some of her fans are bitter and now just looking for the "I told you so!"

if Obama loses, it means, to them, that they were right. Hillary would have won. Obama didn't. See!

if Hillary had gotten the nomination, Obama fans had nothing to gain by voting McCain. their argument was never that Hillary couldn't win. it was that Obama should.

so... yeah. I'm afraid that people are really going to go and vote McCain just so that Obama will fail and everyone will see the error of their ways.

and strategically speaking, a massive Obama failure is the clearest path to Hillary '12

[madmoisellestar]

'See!' is on my list of bad reasons for voting. Or really, doing just about anything at all.

[andesmusings]

hmm..I was sure I had a toby icon....now I want one too.

[dwolfe]

The majority of people aren't rational, they are emotional.

Thus "fuck you" outweighs "next best".