Fallen: So Bad the Cover Face-Palms

[m_pendulum]

Long ago there was an angel. The most sublime of his kind. So much so that he was sometimes called Morning Star. Despite his standing, he was still, of course, considered inferior to the one that created him. This angel decided that it was "better to reign in hell, than serve in heaven" and managed to turn fellow angels against the very being they

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[m_pendulum]

Well, that depends on how you view God and Angels. I also find the idea of romantic fallen angels a little melodramatic. To be a fallen angel, imo, means committing a crime of a certain level (like all out war on Heaven) not deciding that you wanted to go out with a human girl. Also, and this is my Catholic School education coming in, who is to say that Angels are governed by the same rules as man? In terms of falling in love with a mortal, that was not the issue. It was reproducing and in the Hebrew Bible, that was perfectly acceptable. The reason they were killed off was due to disobeying God.

As for your second example, refusing to obey orders of genocide (are you alluding to Dogma because I <3 that movie) again, that is making it seems as though Angels and Humans are alike in the way they think. Also, in the case of Dogma, I'm pretty sure the problem was flipping God off.

Basically, for me a "Fallen Angel" is dark and an Angel put on earth to have a lover or because they disagreed with God is just...a former angel turned human.

We turn Angels into human figures, which they are not, and therefore we make it seem as though our thought process about God's actions are the same as their own. If they are on such a level with God, then they know his action and the reasons for them on a level that we humans can only speculate.

But that is just my opinion on the topic.

[vox_mortem]

True, and I think the misunderstanding stems from authors failing to understand the principles of Christianity in general. To the, angels are cool winged humanoids, and fallen angels are cool winged humanoids with tragic backstories and angst. I'm an atheist, but from my understanding, angels don't have a will of their own the way humans do.

[m_pendulum]

I am not catholic/christian (I believe in many paths to enlightenment through any individual decision), however I went to Catholic school for 13 years, so thats where my "knowledge" comes from.

Too many people assume that humanoid=human, which is not the case and it would actually make a story more interesting if they made those leaps.