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mfirefly10 February 28 2011, 08:21:42 UTC
I think Outcasts gets better as it goes along but I'm mostly just watching for Fleur & Stella.

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lyssie February 28 2011, 13:01:51 UTC
I thought it might? But it's still hard to get past the first episode, in some ways.

Also, one wonders if Jamie Bamber was desperate to shed the goody-two-shoes Lee Adama image.

eta: although, seriously, Outcasts is already three billion times better in terms of female characters with agency than The Walking Dead was. I'm waiting to find out Outcasts is canceled because of that.

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mfirefly10 February 28 2011, 18:44:42 UTC
Also, one wonders if Jamie Bamber was desperate to shed the goody-two-shoes Lee Adama image.

Heh. I thought the same thing! And the character he plays in L&O UK is very similar to Lee in a lot of ways.

Outcasts is already three billion times better in terms of female characters with agency than The Walking Dead was.

Very true. Sadly, the BBC moved Outcasts to Sunday night, which I've been told is a bad sign :(

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lyssie March 1 2011, 23:38:19 UTC
ahahah. I wrote my comment and failed to hit post this morning. ahem.

He did one of the few things that will get me to hate a character without reservation.

And here's hoping if it gets canned we get something space opera-y in its place with lots of women doing things/

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bella_farfalla February 28 2011, 22:32:32 UTC
I watched the first episode and my reaction was mostly "Dear BBC, there is not enough sci-fi in your new sci-fi show. That is all."

I haven't watched any more. Perhaps I should Iplayer it.

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lyssie March 1 2011, 13:11:10 UTC
heh. It reminds me a bit of Earth 2, just... not as sf-y. I don't know if it's good or not, I'm currently really bitter about Chase being canceled and it's affecting my judgment.

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wiliqueen March 1 2011, 00:38:42 UTC
You're the first person I've seen be in any way ambivalent about Outcasts. I know one friend who's been following it in the UK and keeps capslocking her gender and ethnic frustration, so I'm kind of bracing myself for that, but still reserving judgment.

Despite my vast Amy Manson love, though, I'm waiting for BBCA just on account of The Busy That Is My Life.

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lyssie March 1 2011, 13:13:53 UTC
I'm trying to hold off on judging it because I'm incredibly bitter over Chase being canceled, and Ron Moore getting another show, so I'm worried I'll be extra judgy.

Despite that, I'm still not happy about some of the things in the open.

But I'm sort of screwed if I want to watch Hermione Norris in something that isn't Spooks. There's Wire in the Blood, but I'm not really in the mood for Robson Green.

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mfirefly10 March 2 2011, 08:12:57 UTC
I can tell you that Amy is BRILLIANT in this, if that should effect your decision :)

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wiliqueen March 2 2011, 15:10:59 UTC
I'll be watching it regardless; just don't have time to go torrenting it right now to catch up. But that's still good to know. :-) Thanks!

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