it's so evil ... the way you've no reverence for my concern.

Jun 29, 2004 14:03

saw farenheit 9/11 last friday - my birthday. i cried. who didn't?

i'm glad the movie was made, i'm glad people are seeing it in record numbers. it had a lot of good and incredibly important points and connections. but i'm sick and tired of michael moore's bullshit, of his rampant racism and xenophobic nationalism, of the way he exploits and ( Read more... )

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interesting, but deerandpeacock June 29 2004, 13:49:28 UTC
the essay on the AA Movement website is weak. well-written, but mostly just broad assumptions and blank, example-less accusations. eg:

Some might consider our argument that Moore's project is anti-black as unfair given that in both his books and films he addresses issues such as slavery, racial profiling and the prison system. Yet Moore does so in a way that doesn't disrupt his white nationalist project.

fascinating. but tell me how.

also, i thought this was ridiculous:
But more problematic is that inherent in Moore's challenge to the detention and deportation of non-white immigrants is a reliance on the presumed reality of a "criminal" body that is "dangerous" and therefore should be locked up for credible reasons. Given that African Americans have, since the legal end of chattel slavery, been incarcerated overwhelmingly compared to other racial groups--and that in the "free world," blackness serves as the criminal profile that informs policing measures, including those applied to non-Black bodies--Moore's sympathy towards the unfair incarceration of immigrants reflects an anxiety that they are being treated like "real criminals" (read: Black people) when they don't deserve to be.

Huh? Yes, more black people are in jail because they are policed and punished harder by racist authority and court systems. Duh. And who says MM doesn't believe that? Who says he thinks that all people in jail, most of whom are black, are the "real" criminals? What an assumption. The author of this paper must be strongly anti-prison and critical of the notion of "real" criminality, which Moore is not (he's not THAT damn radical). I believe there are real criminals, most of whom are not in jail, and I wouldn't put it past Moore to believe likewise.

This was interesting:
Most of today's progressive movements, themselves critical of "stupid white men" in power, are also driven by the same fear of blackness, which put simply, is a lack of concern for Black people and instead more of an anxiety of being treated like them.

Good point, and I agree, but I'd like more examples just for clarity.

P.S., so is the whole paper about white on black racism, or is it about white ethnocentrism? A surprising adherence to the idea of racism as soley white against black...

Then they start going on about how 19th century presidents were racist and passed racist laws (pg 5). Another duh-- and guess what, they still are, and they still do! What a breakthrough.

Anyway, lemme read that MM paper you wrote. Sounds great. For now lemme finish pg 6 of the AA movement one...

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Re: interesting, but luuuvuuul July 2 2004, 06:59:42 UTC
yeah,very good points, all. see what i have to say about this. i'll give you the paper if you give me a way to get it to you. the whole thing is not about racism, but the racism that i do discuss is simply the racism in the movie. which, because of the way moore does it, is entirely white and black.

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