That was unexpected...

[lupercus_wuff]

So I wore body armor to work yesterday. Given what I do for a living that's not that unusual. However the vest was labeled Large Regular C-cup, Female. And here's the real wierd part, it was the best fitting ballistic vest I've ever worn. Normaly vest are maed of two flat pannels that are velcroed tight at the tops and sides. This one was

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[fyrdawg]

PC? I'm heavy but I'm not as fat as that Bill Gates wana-be in the Mac ad's *grins*. Don't worry about hurting my feelings, every day I wake and get ready for work, I strap on my vest, put on my blues, snap on my duty belt, and grab my Glock *barf* from the safe, I also turn off most of my emotions. You know it doesn't do to let the little pricks know that they can get to you. So I'm pretty good at dealing with non-pc comments.

As far as not taking care of my self like I should *hangs head in shame* well that part is right on the money. Hey I'm working on it. SAW gunners are burley?? heheh... I may be showing my age a little bit but we had some 60 gunner's that could shoot that thing like a rifle, now they were burly.

As for the soft body armor, if you haven't had a chance to wear a fitted vest, you don't know how comfortable they can be. My fitted III-A is way more comfortable than any mail order vest I've ever tried. If it's fitted properly there is no reason you can't wear III-A al day long and not have any problems. Ok so my agency buys my vets for me but trust me the fit is worth the extra cash.

Now that were all done talking about how old I'm not and how much my body may be out of shape, I'm going to go fondle my old service revolver and eat a donut ;). Hmmmmm..... Bavarian cream filled goodness, coupled with the beauty of 4 inches of stainless steel capable of launching 6 rounds of 158 grain .357 diameter fight stopping goodness. *groan* urgh ummm.... pardon me I have to go deal with something that just sprang up *chuckles* stay safe out there.

*huggs*

Fyrdawg

[lupercus_wuff]

*snugs*

Why does everyone act like they're old just because they remember the M60? We have four sitting in the arms room today ;9. I think the M240's we had in country were heavier. Ours had bipods, but we were smart and kept them vehicle mounted. For some reason the 101 that replaced us didn't have bipods and insisted on having 3 men pack around the tripod for it. *snickers*

Hey! Pay no attention to the fact we realy can't train with them because there's no spares if something breaks and it would look bad on the boss if our readiness code took a hit...

The make fitted vests? Who should I have a chat with and what's the price range as sadly I have to buy much of my personal gear, but Idaho is a friendly if heavily armed place. Who's payroll ya on?

Glock? Heh, never had much for the canted Euro-grip on it. Wasn't much of an XD man at first glance but now I'm hooked on the beast. Been considering getting a Sub-comp model for a carry weapon when I get back from the coming tour.

Speaking of the tour, know anyone making kevlar shorts? I'd rather not have to wear the goofy kevlar skirt I made uless I have to...

[fyrdawg]

Lol.... No I don't think I'm old because I remember the M60E3, however my issued side arm was a .38 revolver, and my unit had zero M-9's when I separated from the Corps. What makes feel old are the looks I get from some of the summer reserves we hire at work when I mention things like "Book'em Dano", Kojack", & "Hill Street Blues". The look of wonder and question they give me makes me think of a caveman with a super-computer *chuckles*. When I was getting out the Corps was testing out the 240, and the main thing I remember from talking to the guy's who used it was that they didn't want to give up their 60's because the friggen 240 is so heavy. I mean all they did was take the 7.62 that were being mounted on the Abrams and I think the Bradley and put a butt stock on it. Where the 60 was a purpose built light machine gun made to be light and portable. As far as old stuff on the books my last command had an operational Korean area Sikorsky (ala Bridges at To-KO Ri) and a Vietnam era two seat rescue bird that had two angled inter-meshing rotors, now those were old.

As for the cost of a fitted vest, not really any more than the same vest ordered off the rack. You just have to wait for it; most of the major makers offer their vests this way. My Gator Hawk was around $700.00. Now who to contact? Well up here we just to the local cop shop and they fit us for the vest, most full service retailers offer this service. As for the Kevlar underwear, well they do make it but not for ballistic protection. They make Kevlar (ARAMID) under garments for flight crews ect. because they are fire resistant.

Now for the bane of my existence, the ever popular G-22. God how I hate that weapon. the feel of a brick, the ergonomics of a 2x4 and that horrible trigger that they come with. I really prefer my revolvers or my S&W 3914, that thing has a sweet trigger and I prefer SA/DA to a DAO weapon.

Well Maine is also one of those friendly yet heavily armed states as well. We are one of three "Free" states (Maine, New Hampshire & Vermont) up here in the north east trapped by the evil that is NY, MA, CT, and NJ. On a side note Vermont is one of the two states in the country that allows concealed carry with out a permit, and I believe the last time anyone compared they had about the lowest crime rate out there.

Now whom do I work for? hmmmm... not in a hurry to post that in an open forum. Let me check your profile and see if you a an e-mail address posted.
But we are a small seaside town with about 20 full time and 40 reserve officers. during the summer our year round population jumps from 10,0000 to between 50 & 100,000 depending on the weekend. We have the distinction of being the "blue collar" beach town, sooo.... we see our share of bar fights ect. and now the local Somali population has decided that we're a good place to hangout. Well that just brings a whole new level of pleasure to work every day. We don't have any problem with the adults it's the friggin teen's.

Till our next chat, Be Safe.

*huggs*

Fyr

[lupercus_wuff]

Sent ya my mil e-mail. I realy should be a wee bit less open book myself. I mean I had a stuffed fox straped to the back of my ruck when I whent down the line shaking the hands of the brass and governor to get on the plane. The rear detachment general had the oddest look on his face but I guess the local press loved it. Never got a pic of me in the paper but that fox became a local hero to the wives and GF's, who knew?

"Book 'em Dano" thats funny.

$700? Ouch no wonder we live on second hand trade-ins for most everything out hear in the wilds. I guess with the lower population out this way tactical retail specialists are few and far between. I'll have to check in with the bigger cities some time.

I had a buddy that got out of the Army after the Gulf War. He got to go to the range with some USAF SP's. From what I'm told the revolver was a good reliable piece in the hands of someone not afraid to drop mags/loaders. I guess the Airmen didn't know what to make of the 1911's.

I think the Brits have a lighter barreled version of the M240B, GPMG/GyMPi but don't quote me on that. Truth be told though we should have adopted that belgian MG in the 50's. Its sound, easy to clean an fix wereas the 60 has tones of small parts prone to breakin or loss (unless you add 10 pounds or safty wire of course).

Only ever used a glock once. It was a Iraqi police issue confiscated with a badge from a man claiming to be the cop's father. Some one thought it a good idea for me to guard him with it in the back seat of a 4-pack turtleback. Yeah, that one scared the hell out of me.

Heh, ironic that in the state were some pissed off farmers started a war of independence with the most powerful sea/land power on the planet is among the most interested in opressive dissarmament. Sometimes I get the feeling we should have left NY (bloody crown loyalists anyways) to the Brits and California to Mexico.

Sounds like a pretty fair place. I hear ya about the neibors though. I grew up in Montana myself. Small friendly cowboy world, then a ton of Californians who mad thier coin moved in and bought up all the land and raised the cost of living. Heh, they claimed they wanted to raise this kids away from the gangs and stupidity. Well, their teenagers brought it with them.

Talk to you later my friend,

[fyrdawg]

Well as far as revolvers go I can say in all honesty, that I can shoot the academy qual course for automatics, with my two service revolvers, and do it in the time constraints given for the high cap auto's (ok so I have 9 speed loaders in my pocket). But I love to do that little trick when we start to range qual the new reserves in the spring, to many of then think old technology means it's less dangerous to their safety.

Well I spent a little time in Montana fighting wild fires around Hungry Horse and Kalispell in 03. That's some beautiful country out there. Well you guy's had the rich Cailfornicans moving in buyiong every thing up we have the rich Massholes doing the same thing here. As we like to say in Maine "We suceded from Mass in 1820 and they've been buying us back ever since".

[lupercus_wuff]

Kalispel is some good country in the western Mont mountains. The town itself came real close to burning last year.

Been deployed on forest fires the last couple years in support of local law enforcement by manning road blocks and standing by to evac residents. The duty is awesome, and the food (assuming you ever make it to base camp) is the best I've ever had in my military career. The first year we were so far from the logistics bases it was 10 days of real old fashioned frontier army stuff. This last year though was right off the highway and 15 minutes from camp on a cat II fire so it wasn't bad. Coincidentaly the checkpoint had a view of the White Bird Battlefield were a 130 years before the Idaho Guard first fired a shot in war.

The Washington armed security course is written with revolvers in mind so in the tasks you fire up to six shots before mag changes. Fortunately the budgeted the time limits for handloading revolvers so the guys with autos get the advantage of more time to aim (all 30 shots have to high black or you DQ, but you only get points for center mass). The Montana course is the same as the police qual (but lacks WA's rounds on black req). It has an interesting quirk to it though, a number of years back some officers relised they were at a disadvantage if their primary hand was taken out so the last portion of the test. Unfortunately a lot of new shooters going offhand cross thier thumbs and get kissed by the slide. Never happened to me, but is a sign or bad instruction I say. Never done an Idaho course because of reciprocacy though.