Three: Abortion... A: Yeah, it's also your choice to do drugs, smoke, drink alcohol, kill yourself, join the Lemmings Club, whatever. None of those things are good for anyone, now are they? Drinking / drugs often get others and yourself killed, hence they are frowned upon if not banned within society. We can all see where the allowance of smoking got us, with the rate of an incurable cancer now rising rapidly, perhaps beyond our control, as a direct result of it (yes i'm referring to lung cancer). And obviously killing yourself is also against the law (yes, attempted suicide is indeed against the rules of society. Typically, at least.) At this point, I'd like to point out that an abortion is NOT harming yourself, it IS taking the life of another. And if you look at what I just stated, you see that it IS against the law to take actions that endanger another person's life. Now let me begin.
Look, the abortion issue is very clear cut currently. Murder is not a right, it is a crime. Personally, I am for the allowance of extreme cases in which abortion is an absolute necessity, else the mother will lose her life in the process. If both lives are at stake, I think exceptions might possibly be made. But the needless killing of a child through a brutal procedure (don't tell me it isn't, we both know that's a lie) is a ridiculous notion. Basically, to put it in debate terms: Inherency = there is none, it's a child being born, what's the big deal Harms = Degradation of society through the suppression of an unborn population, as well as moral destruction and undermining Solvency = Solve for human lives by stopping needless abortions, also prevent MURDER, which need i remind us all is supposed to be prevented in the FIRST PLACE.
Four: Why don't we like gays? A: We never said we're specifically pre-disposed against gays. We are pre-disposed against changing the definition of marriage, a word that has meant the same thing since essentially the beginning of the Homo sapiens species, AKA the beginning of time. You know what, you wanna have civil unions so that you can have tax benefits? Be my guest. But don't screw around with marriage just because you ARE pre-disposed against conservatives and Christians, and would thus like to get them all riled up by trying to have nice elaborate wedding ceremonies for homosexual couples. Moral values do include love, but then again, "f*** Bush" or "Those conservative prejudiced bast**ds" aren't exactly loving thoughts. And the Democratic Party in general throws all morals out the window the moment it no longer suits their political agenda. Ted Kennedy is hardly what I call a moral man, and John Kerry, the soldier who burned villages and shot an unarmed, fleeing VC in the back isn't much better now is he? At least Bush is willing to state his morals, and thank God he actually has them. More than I can say for any of the liberal Democrats in the government. Human rights??? You know, technically humans have a right to reproduce, so yeah I guess I can go with that... wait!! Sodomy doesn't produce offspring! In fact, human nature is to follow "what fits"... so are you saying we have to give "human rights", AKA redefine marriage as "all acts that do not follow the technical laws of nature"? Moral values, on the other hand, do NOT include murder of children, AKA abortion.
Also, just to reiterate: Telling me it is unpatriotic to not criticize our president, AKA burn flags and throw pink playdoh at him at protest rallies, is like telling me it is unpatriotic to not burn our flag. It may be ok to criticize him constructively, but if I agree with him, then why should I be forced to criticize him? (Oh and by the way, I do in fact criticize him on certain points where I do not agree)
Also, I'd like to congratulate you. For being so liberal, I'd never imagine that you'd actually agree with a Republican. (AKA Roosevelt) I was just kidding there, in case you got all mad. I can easily believe that you agree with him, and I do as well. Once again, not trying to be an asshole, and I am just joking.
A: Yeah, it's also your choice to do drugs, smoke, drink alcohol, kill yourself, join the Lemmings Club, whatever. None of those things are good for anyone, now are they? Drinking / drugs often get others and yourself killed, hence they are frowned upon if not banned within society. We can all see where the allowance of smoking got us, with the rate of an incurable cancer now rising rapidly, perhaps beyond our control, as a direct result of it (yes i'm referring to lung cancer). And obviously killing yourself is also against the law (yes, attempted suicide is indeed against the rules of society. Typically, at least.) At this point, I'd like to point out that an abortion is NOT harming yourself, it IS taking the life of another. And if you look at what I just stated, you see that it IS against the law to take actions that endanger another person's life.
Now let me begin.
Look, the abortion issue is very clear cut currently. Murder is not a right, it is a crime. Personally, I am for the allowance of extreme cases in which abortion is an absolute necessity, else the mother will lose her life in the process. If both lives are at stake, I think exceptions might possibly be made. But the needless killing of a child through a brutal procedure (don't tell me it isn't, we both know that's a lie) is a ridiculous notion. Basically, to put it in debate terms: Inherency = there is none, it's a child being born, what's the big deal
Harms = Degradation of society through the suppression of an unborn population, as well as moral destruction and undermining
Solvency = Solve for human lives by stopping needless abortions, also prevent MURDER, which need i remind us all is supposed to be prevented in the FIRST PLACE.
Four: Why don't we like gays?
A: We never said we're specifically pre-disposed against gays. We are pre-disposed against changing the definition of marriage, a word that has meant the same thing since essentially the beginning of the Homo sapiens species, AKA the beginning of time. You know what, you wanna have civil unions so that you can have tax benefits? Be my guest. But don't screw around with marriage just because you ARE pre-disposed against conservatives and Christians, and would thus like to get them all riled up by trying to have nice elaborate wedding ceremonies for homosexual couples. Moral values do include love, but then again, "f*** Bush" or "Those conservative prejudiced bast**ds" aren't exactly loving thoughts. And the Democratic Party in general throws all morals out the window the moment it no longer suits their political agenda. Ted Kennedy is hardly what I call a moral man, and John Kerry, the soldier who burned villages and shot an unarmed, fleeing VC in the back isn't much better now is he? At least Bush is willing to state his morals, and thank God he actually has them. More than I can say for any of the liberal Democrats in the government. Human rights??? You know, technically humans have a right to reproduce, so yeah I guess I can go with that... wait!! Sodomy doesn't produce offspring! In fact, human nature is to follow "what fits"... so are you saying we have to give "human rights", AKA redefine marriage as "all acts that do not follow the technical laws of nature"? Moral values, on the other hand, do NOT include murder of children, AKA abortion.
Also, just to reiterate: Telling me it is unpatriotic to not criticize our president, AKA burn flags and throw pink playdoh at him at protest rallies, is like telling me it is unpatriotic to not burn our flag. It may be ok to criticize him constructively, but if I agree with him, then why should I be forced to criticize him? (Oh and by the way, I do in fact criticize him on certain points where I do not agree)
Also, I'd like to congratulate you. For being so liberal, I'd never imagine that you'd actually agree with a Republican. (AKA Roosevelt)
I was just kidding there, in case you got all mad. I can easily believe that you agree with him, and I do as well. Once again, not trying to be an asshole, and I am just joking.
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