I'm perfectly calm, really...

[lozenger8]

Truth in both fiction and discussion of fiction AKA, why the premise of Ashes to Ashes doesn't work.

(aka, even though I know I'm being a wanker, well, I've started now so I may as well continue and crest over the climax)

Comments

[jantalaimon]

There's no reason why we should, but unfortunately sometimes reason is lost to passion.

OTOH, obviously sometimes reason is lost to evident lack of passion, or squelching and repression of passion, as evidenced by Our Dear Canon Writers. I mean, it's obvious they had passion once. And maybe they still do, but I think they're trying too hard to be everything to everyone, and in the process completely losing the plot. Literally, not figuratively.

[lozenger8]

It's sad.

More sad because I hadn't realised that part of me had been counting on them not doing this. But, of course they did, because it's simple. Keep it Simple, Stupid. Except it's more like Keep it Simple and Stupid.

[jantalaimon]

With A2A, they've become the abusive SO, man. :P You didn't want to believe it, and neither did I, but there it is, slapping us all silly.

Jerks.

[lozenger8]

Oh, man.

He said he loves me. I'm-a gonna make him a treacle sponge and maybe he'll forget I called him a fucker repeatedly burned his toast. Hahaha.

Amen.

[hmpf]

Also, I love you.

(Although I'm strangely less bothered by all this than I was by 2.08. I think 2.08 broke LoM so completely for me that it's impossible for me to get really angry about anything past that.)

Re: Amen.

[lozenger8]

:D

I'm nowhere near as bothered as I was by 2.08, but there's a lot less conflict there. I'm a straight-up "BAH, HUMBUG" this time. Last time I really loved certain aspects, even though I knew it was bad of me. There's nothing about this that I love, because it's cruel. Silly and cruel.

I think this kind of thing is...

[hmpf]

why I moved to Fanficland permanently after 2.08. Nothing after 2.08 is going to affect my view of canon. (Sometimes, on my better days, nothing after *2.07* affects my view of canon. *g*)

Denial. It's a beautiful thing.

[eumelkeks]

Ugh, I'm kind of glad that I never started watching Ashes to Ashes.

[lozenger8]

It isn't even on yet.

:D

[eumelkeks]

LOL, see! You're all talking about it so much that I thought it was already on. I'm so clueless.

[_inbetween_]

Thing is, we usually can't help caring, even if we don't want to and there's not much left why we should.

Your previous post didn't have any LoM comment in it, but all the responses did, and from this one I gather that A2 was as bad or worse than expected. The casting alone seemed to point in a direction I didn't want to go - so for once I reread your posts twice AND ask for more spoilers: apart from everything you outlined, is Alex's story very crappy?

[lozenger8]

Well, um, A2A hasn't actually aired yet. I'm responding to comments on the first episode of the series by Ian Wylie. Have you seen his review here?

So, it could be pre-emptive wankery over a mere summarisation of something that's actually handled much more sensibly than is indicated at this moment in time.

[_inbetween_]

Yeah, I skimmed over it twice, having initially and stupidly not "got" why it would have "wider appeal", twisting my brain into knots about that Sam thing ie. mainly already guessing at how they'll end Alex's story, but if there's no leaked copy yet I'll also wait and see.

[piapiapiano]

What's the point of getting angry over fiction? I've been wondering about this. Specifically, over why I get so annoyed when fictional stories don't make sense

[lozenger8]

They have to make sense on some level, at least. Even if it is a "heeey, we're being silly" level. Even if it's all "look, we know this is a paradox, but bear with us." Humans are remarkably good at suspension of disbelief on occasion.

I think your original point was stories have to make sense for them to be any good. Which I largely agree with. But I'd add the caveat 'or they have to acknowledge that they're not going to.'