Needs more Westerns and Guilt Porn? Recs Please?
Ugh. I've now read all the 3:10 to Yuma and There Will Be Blood slash fanfic on AO3 and FF.net. It's kind of sad.
I need a new fandom for my western period pieces that are full of homoerotic violence and guilt.
If you haven't seen these movies here's what I like about each of them, with spoilers behind tags.
There Will Be Blood
TWBB tells the story of the rise and fall of an oil tycoon. It is very loosely based off of OIL! by Upton Sinclair. I tried reading the book, but found the exposition of the novel rather slow. I might come back to it.
Over the course of the movie Daniel (the tycoon's) corruption and desperation is mainly tracked through his relationship with his adopted son HW and a faith healer and preacher named Eli. Daniel rips off Eli, so Eli is constantly trying to get back the $5,000 dollars he believes he is owed.
Daniel and Eli plot their assorted revenges and slights over the film. Daniel mostly uses violence, where Eli mostly uses humiliation. Cue me watching dudes humiliate and beat each other senseless for a while. Some stuff involving other characters happen as well, mostly scenes that establish Daniel's ruthlessness and how far he is willing to go to make a profit (the film is fairly anti-greed), but because I am a shameless fangirl I will gloss over it.
These clips have spoilers in them, but are pretty good example of the shippiness levels of the film.
Daniel beats up Eli: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugTbwvVuLKA
Eli humiliates Daniel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zirtzDl2RH0
Where this goes as far as fanfic potential is then amazing. There's a time skip in the film, that could allow for all kinds of things to happen in-between. Some of my favorite tropes/ideas for this ship are as follows:
-Eli feeling ashamed over any variety of things: how aroused Daniel's hate makes him, the way it felt good to humiliate Daniel
-Era costume porn: so many suits and vests! @__@
-Daniel being violent and verbally abusive
-ALL THE HATE-SEX AND FOE-YAY
3:10 to Yuma (2007)
Dan Evans is a down on his luck farmer and civil war vet who encounters Ben Wade, a wanted criminal. In order to gain some money and the pride of his family Dan agrees to help several pinkertons escort Ben to the train to prison (hence the name of the film).
Over the course of the film Ben and Dan get to know each other, and Ben seemingly attempts to corrupt Dan. Dan has none of it. This includes trying to get Dan to hit Ben, bribing him to let Ben escape, and shaming Dan about his job as a father and husband. They also talk about god a lot.
Meanwhile the group is being followed by Ben's posse which is led by Charlie Prince. Charlie is incredibly devoted to Ben and kills a number of people who prove disloyal or refuse to give him information.
Being a western, a lot of people die at the end, but we'll skip over that.
My ships for the movie end up being, Ben/Charlie, Ben/Dan, and Ben/Dan/Lily fix it fics (Lily is Dan's wife and a TOTAL BADASS).
Tropes and Ideas:
-The LOGO advertisements: This movie was straight up advertised on logo, talking about how much Charlie cares about Ben. XD
-Yandere Prince: Charlie's devotion to Ben is fucking terrifying. He burns a man alive for Ben.
-Sassy, Murderous, Yandere Charlie: Charlie has some of the best snappy lines in the film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6UsFuRm8ls) (fairly non-spoilery clip). I just love that bit so much
-Unrequited/Uneven Love Charlie: related back to the last two points I feel like Charlie thinks/obsesses a lot more about Ben than Ben does about him, and that he knows that Ben is using him a little.
-Topping from the Bottom Ben: Ben has a few lines with Dan that explain his philosophy on life ("it's man's nature to takes what he wants" is the big one that caught on in fandom.), shames and trolls Dan, and then tries to get Dan to hit him on purpose (all while smirking). (Check it out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrWdJOffagM). "I like this side of you, Dan," is the other big line from this scene. ALSO THE SCENE IS EVEN CALLED TEMPTATION
-"I like this side of you, Dan.": I have so many feels about this moment. The way Ben almost whispers is it, and that his lips are slightly parted before hand. The stare down afterwards! My icon is from that moment. And just unf! my feels!
-Bridal Suite: they stay in a bridal suite. Ben sprawls out in Ben with his hands shackled and teases Dan about where the brides are. Dan grumps in response.
-Stoic Dan getting seduced: Dan is very stoic, and seeing him anger/desire hybrid lash out at Ben is always delicious. I'm not really into the fluff fics for just the two of them.
-MOAR GUILT: Dan gets to then feel guilty for the way Ben was ruined him, and Ben can do the whole I comfort you and tell you that is the way of the world by getting dirty with you right now.
-gun kink
I need a new fandom for my western period pieces that are full of homoerotic violence and guilt.
If you haven't seen these movies here's what I like about each of them, with spoilers behind tags.
There Will Be Blood
TWBB tells the story of the rise and fall of an oil tycoon. It is very loosely based off of OIL! by Upton Sinclair. I tried reading the book, but found the exposition of the novel rather slow. I might come back to it.
Over the course of the movie Daniel (the tycoon's) corruption and desperation is mainly tracked through his relationship with his adopted son HW and a faith healer and preacher named Eli. Daniel rips off Eli, so Eli is constantly trying to get back the $5,000 dollars he believes he is owed.
Daniel and Eli plot their assorted revenges and slights over the film. Daniel mostly uses violence, where Eli mostly uses humiliation. Cue me watching dudes humiliate and beat each other senseless for a while. Some stuff involving other characters happen as well, mostly scenes that establish Daniel's ruthlessness and how far he is willing to go to make a profit (the film is fairly anti-greed), but because I am a shameless fangirl I will gloss over it.
These clips have spoilers in them, but are pretty good example of the shippiness levels of the film.
Daniel beats up Eli: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugTbwvVuLKA
Eli humiliates Daniel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zirtzDl2RH0
Where this goes as far as fanfic potential is then amazing. There's a time skip in the film, that could allow for all kinds of things to happen in-between. Some of my favorite tropes/ideas for this ship are as follows:
-Eli feeling ashamed over any variety of things: how aroused Daniel's hate makes him, the way it felt good to humiliate Daniel
-Era costume porn: so many suits and vests! @__@
-Daniel being violent and verbally abusive
-ALL THE HATE-SEX AND FOE-YAY
3:10 to Yuma (2007)
Dan Evans is a down on his luck farmer and civil war vet who encounters Ben Wade, a wanted criminal. In order to gain some money and the pride of his family Dan agrees to help several pinkertons escort Ben to the train to prison (hence the name of the film).
Over the course of the film Ben and Dan get to know each other, and Ben seemingly attempts to corrupt Dan. Dan has none of it. This includes trying to get Dan to hit Ben, bribing him to let Ben escape, and shaming Dan about his job as a father and husband. They also talk about god a lot.
Meanwhile the group is being followed by Ben's posse which is led by Charlie Prince. Charlie is incredibly devoted to Ben and kills a number of people who prove disloyal or refuse to give him information.
Being a western, a lot of people die at the end, but we'll skip over that.
My ships for the movie end up being, Ben/Charlie, Ben/Dan, and Ben/Dan/Lily fix it fics (Lily is Dan's wife and a TOTAL BADASS).
Tropes and Ideas:
-The LOGO advertisements: This movie was straight up advertised on logo, talking about how much Charlie cares about Ben. XD
-Yandere Prince: Charlie's devotion to Ben is fucking terrifying. He burns a man alive for Ben.
-Sassy, Murderous, Yandere Charlie: Charlie has some of the best snappy lines in the film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6UsFuRm8ls) (fairly non-spoilery clip). I just love that bit so much
-Unrequited/Uneven Love Charlie: related back to the last two points I feel like Charlie thinks/obsesses a lot more about Ben than Ben does about him, and that he knows that Ben is using him a little.
-Topping from the Bottom Ben: Ben has a few lines with Dan that explain his philosophy on life ("it's man's nature to takes what he wants" is the big one that caught on in fandom.), shames and trolls Dan, and then tries to get Dan to hit him on purpose (all while smirking). (Check it out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrWdJOffagM). "I like this side of you, Dan," is the other big line from this scene. ALSO THE SCENE IS EVEN CALLED TEMPTATION
-"I like this side of you, Dan.": I have so many feels about this moment. The way Ben almost whispers is it, and that his lips are slightly parted before hand. The stare down afterwards! My icon is from that moment. And just unf! my feels!
-Bridal Suite: they stay in a bridal suite. Ben sprawls out in Ben with his hands shackled and teases Dan about where the brides are. Dan grumps in response.
-Stoic Dan getting seduced: Dan is very stoic, and seeing him anger/desire hybrid lash out at Ben is always delicious. I'm not really into the fluff fics for just the two of them.
-MOAR GUILT: Dan gets to then feel guilty for the way Ben was ruined him, and Ben can do the whole I comfort you and tell you that is the way of the world by getting dirty with you right now.
-gun kink