my issue with christians...

[lovelark]

Now before I bury myself, I'd just like to state that I know I'm generalizing. I know there are plenty of christians who are wonderful people. There are christians who travel the world giving, and helping other people, and hardly give a second thought to thier own comfort. There are christians that reach out with love BEFORE they start spewing

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[mrwhippymug]

I just spoke with you on the phone, and you seemed pretty convinced that I would be pissed at this post. I agree completely with just about everything you say. And let me just say, that people who don't practice what they preach, aren't Christians. My friends at school definitely address that when they're talking about people when faith is involved. We use the word "solid". If a person says they are Christian but don't practice it, they're not solid, and by my thinking, don't have what I would determine to be a "true" faith. Now maybe they're truly searching and just haven't found out how to live that faith yet, but if they'r earnestly searching, they'll find it. It's unfortunate that Christians get the rap we do because usually the worst and most hypocritical Christians are the loudest and the ones everybody sees and hears, and that's how stereotypes and generalizations start. But you're right on the money when you're upset with people like that, because they are full of shit. It's an unfortunate fact of life.

Now, about the friends scenario, you may not want to go right out and say it's us, but I will. I know that stuff happens, and it makes me kinda mad too. I try to not partake in it as much as possible, because I don't believe it's right to do (i.e. random body part tag and boob groping). I mean there's a vast difference between that and hugging and cuddling, which go on much more frequent. I always wanna say something when that kind of crap happens, but the whole "holier-than-thou" aspect makes me keep my mouth shut. I know that I wasn't chaste in my previous relationships, and it's only this past semester at school that I became aware of the chastity that I believe to be true, which is something I hadn't adhered to in the past. And John's right, nobody is perfect, but if nobody addresses our flaws, then we don't know we have them. One of the purposes of friends is to point out our weaknesses so we can become stronger. Not in a condescending way, but in a learning way. It's all how we grow. Think about it in that sense instead of in an attacking way. Anyways, that's all for now. Peace!

[mrwhippymug]

One thing I forgot to address that I wanted to was your talk about quoting scripture. I don't agree with the blanket statement of "DON'T SPEW SCRIPTURE AND EXPECT IT TO MEAN A SINGLE THING TO UNBELIEVERS," because in many cases it works. There have been quite a few occasions where a bible passage will bring someone to Jesus. It just depends on the person and what they need to hear to believe. It doesn't work in all cases, but it definitely has. And it depends how people use scripture too. Obviously, if they take things out of context, then that's not right. Since sentences can mean a lot if they agree with the context they're in. And obviously if they're doing it just to prove their knowledge of the Bible to look good to others then that's just stupid too. But there are many times where if I'm trying to comfort someone or help them through a tough time that I'll use scripture, because it will state things better than I could. Like quoting a poem or song lyrics. If it does a really good job of stating your point, then use it. I'm a big fan of using scripture, as you may have noticed, if someone's down or not feeling wanted or feeling stressed etc., because it's a good reference that addresses many of those topics in a way that I couldn't.

[thatguitarguy]

Well I'll definately agree with beths post and I'd really like to get together and just talk about whatever...I just like having those conversations that really make you think and sometimes just go "YES!! FRIGGIN RIGHT!"

I would agree with the sausagefest stuff...its really just obnoxious in my opinion. It definately bothers me to see Justine getting humped all the damn time...I wouldnt do that to a girl unless it was desired obviously...its just DISRESPECTFUL!

Recently gerbitz pulled down her pants and put his crotch in justines face...a layer of boxers...you know what she did? She got up and slapped him in the face and told him never to do that again. I was celebrating inside thats for sure.

Its just starting to bug me when guys go up to her and grab her boobs and hump her and crap. First of all, they're not yours, you wouldnt do that to a stranger, dont do it to her...its disrespectful. Secondly, YOU"RE DOING IT IN FRONT OF ME! What gives you the nerve to do it to begin with let alone in front of me. What the heck is going through your head? It boggles the hell out of me...its completely out of line and not only disrespectful to her, but to me as well!

GAH!!

oh yeah...

[thatguitarguy]

I forgot to mention that while scripture can be a decent tool...its not always the best. In my opinion, personal experience is the best tool.