Musings on the Bible 1

Mar 13, 2011 19:43

Book of Genesis, ch 3:1-7; (serpent story) But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not die; for God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evilI thought, until the moment when woman decided to try the fruit, woman and man only knew "good". Everything in creation was approved of and was ( Read more... )

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ammadeena March 24 2011, 19:40:06 UTC
I often felt like that when my mum scolded me for eating bits off the cake she left out.

..if you don't want me to eat it, don't fucking leave it out like that XD

God's the "father of all", so it's kinda duh that the children ate the cake/apple. It's like handing a dog a cookie and then scolding it for eating the cookie. God intended for the snake to tempt Eve, and for her to tempt Adam. This reminds me of CwG again. "There you go again, making me not responsible." -Ellen Burnstyn, as God.

It's kinda interesting: it wasn't man's fault, he was tempted by woman, who was tempted by the Serpent. It's like.. they want to blame God for leaving the cake out, but they were afraid of God so they invented the Serpent to blame. I mean, before that episode, they loved God, and after it they suddenly feared him because their consciousness was kicked into life.

Finally they could experience love, for now there was something to compare it with: fear. A small price to pay, I feel. I felt that SO strongly when I came out of that depression I had about 2 years ago. All the misery I'd been feeling made every tiny positive thing feel like a gallon of chocolate sauce XD

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love_rainbow April 4 2011, 04:40:58 UTC
Well your mom probably wanted to eat the cake for dinner and was also kind of trying to instill a sense of self control in you, either on purpose or by accident. My mom made cakes and cookies all the time and had to leave them out to cool. Except for special cakes, we were always allowed to have like, one cookie or brownie or something when it was cool enough to eat, but still hot and fresh. Those are the best!

But yeah, the way I feel about the Bible is that the whole idea of blaming another and being tempted by another, was something that people made up in a failed attempt at interpreting the real point of the story. For the first time God was angry at them too. If they knew nothing but perfection, they'd have no idea what anger even was. I think the idea of eating the forbidden fruit was either intended by God, or a fluke because mankind was created in the image of the gods, thus having free will and a curious mind as part of that. Though really, God having created everything perfect and available to all things and then going "..but not this one", already sets in the factor of something to compare.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that I don't think temptation was a factor at all, like temptation kind of assumes there's ill will involved and I don't think there was any.

Even when God got angry and said basically "Serpents crawl and writhe around on their bellies! Women have painful pregnancies and are weaker than men! Men have to work hard for us all because of their strength!" Like, he didn't change the structures of serpents or women or men, I think he was just stating the obvious - like not getting angry, and perhaps not even yelling, because we know sometimes God's voice comes to us through our own epiphanies! Like now that their awareness was heightened, knowing "other than perfection", they were aware of other undesirable qualities of themselves. Oh, snakes have no limbs, how pitiful! Even though all other mammals are quadrupeds and give birth quickly and relatively painlessly, humans are bipeds and have small birth canals, and also have larger skulls than any other animal! Women would go through extreme pain and might even die in childbirth because of our physical design! Men are physically stronger than women and can easier overbear them, but at the same time they can last longer in the fields and so they would toil for the sake of society.

I wouldn't be surprised if, in fact, God didn't actually shout that out to them as a curse in anger, but more like suddenly they were extremely aware of less-than-perfect in every aspect of their lives.

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