I see you driving 'round town with the girl I love

Dec 05, 2011 15:14

If anyone's out there today and feels like having a meme:

1. Comment on this post.
2. I will give you a letter.
3. Think of 5 fictional characters and either reply here with their names and your comments on the characters or post them to your own journal.

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lostinapapercup December 6 2011, 02:46:56 UTC
Naturally, I like your selection.

I assigned you the letter and then had to stop and think about who I'd have picked because my mind suddenly went blank of all L names. But when they started seeping back in Laura and Leoben were at the top of the list. You've known from the beginning how much I love Laura as a character, and I honestly think Leoben is fascinating. I think he's both absolutely certain of his beliefs and incredibly manipulative. My question right up until seeing the Flesh and Bone arc from his point of view in The Plan was is he just obsessed with her or does he actually have some kind of tap into something else. And the flashes of the future he got when he backed her up against the wall proved he does have something else going on. It doesn't change the fact that he's obsessed with her, though, or that he goes to extreme measures and is excellent at manipulation. It just... I don't know, gives a slightly different accent to his character.

And then you said Lee! Man, I sure have thought a lot about Lee lately, and I agree with so much of what you say about him here. Maybe if I hadn't read that podcast transcript -- I think it was a podcast transcript -- where RDM said something to the effect of how they'd fumbled some with Lee I'd be willing to give his writing more credit for some of his flaws, but I can't now. Even though he was obviously flawed and had a chip on his shoulder, I initially liked him. I didn't love him, but I liked him. I enjoyed his conflict initially. I enjoyed his UST with Starbuck initially too, although my interest in them as a duo has always been more pinned to their ability to be USTful friends, brothers-in-arms (so to speak), and nearly family rather than romantically complicated to the point of hurting other people and beating each other up. You're right that his notable bad treatment of Starbuck in LDYB and Dee throughout season three really keep me from liking him more.

I don't know. I think it's funny to read people saying there's not enough Lee love or that he's a fantastic character, I admit, because I think most people I see online like him and while I think he's a good character -- this coming from someone who kind of loves all BSG characters, though -- I certainly don't think he's a great character. I think some serious missteps were made with him, and barring that absolutely beautiful speech of his at Baltar's trial, most of my favorite Lee scenes are of him with Bill or Laura. I like him most in seasons one and four, and I'm an unapologetic fan of his season four arc, barring a few minor problems I have (like naming him President; there just seemed something uncomfortably undemocratic about it) and one major problem (his hasty insistence that they needed to fly the fleet into the sun).

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in_the_blue December 6 2011, 03:05:25 UTC
Lee. Man, I could've gone on and on about all the BSG characters. You happen to know where I stand on most of them, but my choice of words saying Lee was a good character was awfully intentional. BSG has a lot of great characters but yeah, it's those missteps made for whatever reason - some at Jamie Bamber's insistence, some not - that keep him from being a top-tier character for me.

Now I'm going to post this meme in my journal. Maybe I'll be able to give you a letter!

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