Brutus & Sexual Frustration

Apr 04, 2014 21:02

With het forbidden, most kids in the Centre have a gay phase. Brutus tries, but some people just ain't cut out for it.

(Warnings for weird consent -- he agrees but he doesn't like it, and he's not very nice about it -- and for later mentions of blood lust/sexy lust conflations.)

Click for Brutus having a bad day )

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deathmallow April 5 2014, 17:32:14 UTC
(tries to not play the "You Had a Bad Day" song because it might make Brutus want to kill things, because it makes ME want to kill things.)

Well, you know I'm always interested in how the cultures of the Panem districts, and the Capitol, fuck people up psychologically, and sexually is one facet of that. This is definitely an interesting take on it, and bloodlust/sexual lust is definitely something I see being a risk. Well done.

FWIW I tend to write that het isn't forbidden because honestly, in making something forbidden (especially to a teenager) it can actually become a huge enticement to the point of fixating on it. For me, the Academy trains them to think of it as nothing more than another physical need. They provide condoms and the like and probably even assign each other sexual partners for the first couple encounters to keep it uebercasual and say "Go at it," until the cadet figures out themselves that, lacking emotional intimacy, there's "nothing special" about it. It feels good, but so does a good fight. They'll fuck if they feel horny, just like they'll eat if they're hungry. But they'll be punished if they start attaching any emotional significance to that sex because their training, and the Capitol, come first (no pun intended). So in making sex of any stripe so very mundane and exposing them to it as part of their training, it actually takes all the mystery and allure out of it that a teenager would normally obsess over.

So yeah, for me, Twos have their own sexual hangups because to them, thinking of it as anything but "scratching an itch" is uncomfortable. For my headcanon, I think that's part of why Brutus and Lyme didn't end up getting married (that plus their feelings of inadequacy as victors); the whole thing just challenged their emotions and perceptions of things too much and they always kept some part of themselves walled off. Haymitch doesn't quite understand the entire situation with them.

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lorata April 5 2014, 20:17:47 UTC
Oh, that's fun! For me that's exactly why the Program didn't do that. They're only sending two kids per year to the Games -- better to risk a few having secret het sex (which, let's be real, but they're all on birth control and it's more important not to get caught) than have a whole bunch of emotionally compromised kids be screwed up on intimacy. :) The post-Centre dorms are all about detoxing and are basically an unofficial match-making time for the kids who aren't going on to be Peacekeepers.

Basically the Program in mine is not actually about building Volunteers exclusively, to the extent that it'll screw over the other kids. That's not practical. They SAY it is, but it ain't. They're also building strategists, trainers, and -- actually -- politicians, doctors, police, etc.

YAY DIFFERENT HEADCANONS :D

(There's also the whole sparring culture thing which I have feelings about but don't want to, like, go crazy.)

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deathmallow April 6 2014, 04:58:55 UTC
I think we differ on that I think most of the late "fails" (past age 15 or so) do become Peacekeepers, because they see that as the next most honorable option, and most closely in line with what they've been trained to do. For a warrior culture, the chance to be a police officer/solider would be seen favorably, and they'd be hesitant to "regress" away from what they fought so hard to achieve and become a doctor, politician, etc. It's a way to most directly acknowledge what they accomplished at the Academy.

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lorata April 6 2014, 05:07:52 UTC
Most of the washouts in mine go on to the Peacekeeping Academy I think, though a fair chunk come back as trainers (not a lot of trainers can make it past 15 years without the guilt setting in, and I think 20 years is the cutoff before you're asked to retire or moved to admin) or Centre management/recruiters/strategists/PR people/etc. The number of kids who become doctors is probably low, percentage-wise, and that's a lot the kids who come out of it with guilt issues and need to atone. (Centre infirmary doctors, or exit/trauma counsellors, for example, are fairly common alternatives for the few who don't want to go into Peacekeeping)

It definitely works in yours, and it feeds into the characters you've created for Lyme and Brutus and Enobaria and makes sense in that context (especially since your Twos are sold, and if they're taught to divorce sex from intimacy then it would make sense how that would work).

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deathmallow April 6 2014, 05:12:20 UTC
Agreed on this--most of mine become Peacekeepers, and some become trainers as well, which is also seen as honorably "staying in the loop", as it were.

Random aside: even as Peacekeepers, though, I have potential for specializations--one char I write in AFAF took her specialty as a medic because hey, when you're in the outer six districts who have only an apothecary, you pretty much need to have your own medical personnel. (Another became a legalist/detective, another was just a general jack-of-all-trades, etc.)

Well, I only have Enobaria sold off, really. The sexual interest just isn't there for most Twos. But oddly, they'd probably handle the sex slavery with less additional trauma than most of those who actually endure it, because they've already been "numbed".

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lorata April 6 2014, 05:21:22 UTC
Yeah, I definitely have that too -- besides basic skill sets there are medics, demolitions experts, snipers, commanders, beat-keepers (aka city cops), etc. Different squads also have different levels -- stealth/strike ops, basic policing, med/evac teams, guards, hit squads etc -- and that gets made up of people with different specializations as well.

Our headcanons differ on the selling thing (I have Two exempt from selling as part of the Capitol's initiative to keep Two separated from/hated by the other districts, particularly One) but that makes sense with yours at least? :D

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deathmallow April 6 2014, 05:30:25 UTC
(high fives you on actually considering Peacekeepers and being interested by them)

No, I think we're a bit more simpatico than you think--I have that being part of the issue.

At first they weren't sold off (in the pre-Snow days where selling a victor was used as a method of further vengeance) as their "reward" for their loyalty during the Dark Days. By the time they got to the emerging "Games as pageantry" in image-conscious Snow era, I think it was in the Capitol consciousness that a.) Twos are proud and emotionally aloof warriors and b.) you don't buy them. So it just kind of continued that way.

Also, to a Capitol opinion, most Two victors are somewhat "cookie cutter", whereas the Ones (and Fours) are seen as more individualized in the personas they present. Enobaria is the exception to that, with how "exceptional" her final fight and victory were to the Capitol mind, it made her an object of interest.

Twos have been deliberately "packaged" as the aloof warriors, and also the default bet in the Games, for long enough that when they win, there's not really the interest in buying them. It's kind of a "chicken and egg"--part of it is that it keeps Two isolated, especially from One where they're basically always whored out, but part of is that they're just not seen as that novel.

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lorata April 6 2014, 05:30:15 UTC
(Oh the other thing is that yeah in mine they don't see moving away from Centre-related jobs as 'regressing' at all. It's all about serving your district, and ain't no shame in being a doctor or a lawyer or whatever. They're a district of quarry miners, for goodness' sake, there's pretty much no job-shame whatsoever as long as it's useful. Now if you decided to leave the Centre and become a poet or a philosopher then, um. There would be some serious judging there.)

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deathmallow April 6 2014, 05:33:16 UTC
Culturally? Yes. But I think for the late-fails, though, especially as adolescents, to have not only not made it to the arena but have all those warrior skills basically "wasted" by taking a job that doesn't require them, is a risk. Yes, there's "Any way you serve your district is worthy", but there's also the reality of a teenager's vulnerable pride. So it makes more sense for them to be strongly encouraged to become Peacekeepers and keep them happy and validated in honoring their Academy-borne skills, and thus even more fiercely loyal.

Efficiency in the system. ;)

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lorata April 6 2014, 05:35:01 UTC
Yeah I have a full, like, 95% of Seniors going on to be Peacekeepers, and the 18yos almost always make the Scouts (Snow's elite squad). The others are trainers. By that point even with exit counselling it's going to be reeeeeeeally hard to do anything else. I think I just have the cutoff a little higher -- 15/16 is still young enough to be shifted into other tracks, but 17/18, noooo.

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deathmallow April 6 2014, 05:39:56 UTC
I'm looking mainly at 16+ for the sexual stuff coming into play, granted. Prior to that, you're basically expected to keep it in your pants around each other and focus on your training, and if you can't, that's a control and discipline problem that leads to you being kicked out of the program. And for a bunch of kids who've dedicated so many years already to the Academy, even ones with burgeoning hormones, that's usually a fairly effective threat. There's probably a fairly matter-of-fact talk about masturbation a few years prior to that as a method of controlling your libido. They figure it's better for them to go for that now and again and get it out of their systems.

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lorata April 6 2014, 05:45:51 UTC
Yeah, that's why in mine they encourage them just to make out with people in their own cohort. :D It's not like "NO SEX FOR YOU" (because, lol, these kids are killing humans at 14, there's no way they wouldn't start having sexy feelings young, kind of?) and not even NO HET FOR YOU, it's like, make out all you want (ahem, in free time) but just save the het for once you're out of here. And uh if you really NEED to make out with the opposite sex that badly, you're not here for the right reasons, so bye-bye.

Plus sparring culture, which in mine is a huuuuuuge part of how Twos ... show feelings? Romantic or not. Mentor sparring and friend sparring and lover sparring, and it helps the kids channel all kinds of feelings into ways that make sense and aren't out of tune with learning to kill people.

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deathmallow April 6 2014, 05:56:43 UTC
Yeah, basically I have the younger teens being told "Jerk off all you want outside of training times to deal with the urges, but you're here to train, not to hook up. If you're so driven by your urges that you have to make out with someone who's a potential competitor for entering the arena (same sex), or becoming a victor (opposite sex), you clearly aren't serious enough to be here."

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lorata April 6 2014, 06:05:10 UTC
Makes sense! Not gonna lie though, one of my favourite guilty pleasures when I don't feel like writing victors is baby Careers in training being adorable faily boyfriends/girlfriends, trying to navigate basic emotions while also killing people. I have pretty much zero shame about this, which is dumb because I totally should. BUT WHATEVER, TINY CHILD SOLDIERS + TEENAGE RELATIONSHIP FAILBOATING = AMAZING, DON'T JUDGE ME.

a-like so:

"I love you," Rowan says, and maybe it is just because of the kill, maybe neither of them would have said it if they were normal kids having normal lives but they're not, after this kill will be another and another and if it means Blake gets to say I love you and hear it back then that doesn't make it better but he thinks he can survive.

That night they kiss and touch and say those three words over and over like a mantra until the lights come on in the morning. Blake spends the entire day in a daze and whenever they have a free minute they're back together. For the first time they sneak away during mealtimes, find a closet and don't come out until both are shaking and bruised anew. A trainer catches them as they stumble their way back to the cafeteria, but she looks at Blake's wrist, at the one bead that's shiny while the rest have started to lose their patina and she says nothing.

"I love you," Rowan says in Blake's ear every time they're separated for training.

"I love you," Blake says into Rowan's shoulder when they meet up again at the end of the day.

I love you, Blake thinks the day he earns his second red bead, and drives the blade in deep.

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deathmallow April 6 2014, 06:07:01 UTC
That's OK, I just write my fucked up as the snark and intimacy issues of a 26-y-o festering rageball and a 4-1-y-o depressed alcoholic, and I love those two so damn much just because it's so challenging. The hurdles to clear are insane. XD

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lorata April 6 2014, 06:11:36 UTC
IT'S SO MUCH FUN WHY /o\

I like that I vacillate between very serious portrayals of Career life and Brutus/Lyme platonic bromancing and mentor feelings and, like, baby Careers being adorable failboats. My life, what is it.

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