Orgy of Geekery

Jul 27, 2005 00:53

Mike and I had a very little extra money, so we put it to the good use of splurging on ourselves a little bit for the purposes of regaining our sanity.

So, first we went to see Fantastic Four.

Reed, that's my nose )

harry potter, squeeing, fic meta, v for v, farscape, dr who, star wars, fantastic four, terra firma

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vilakins July 27 2005, 22:22:59 UTC
sack the useless nag and keep the centaur, would you?

I disagree. Trelawney actually predicts disaster approaching the lightning-struck tower, and I'd have to reread her earlier bits to see if they had substance but I suspect they did. She's mostly fake but every now and then she hits it.

I think you're totally right with what Dumbledore was saying with his "Severus" and I did a post about it too. I have some other theories too like Dumbledore was already dying at the start: the withered hand was an outward symptom (this is in the comments). He says some things in the cave which make me think he knew he was dying, and soon, and that was why he took all those risks. I think he also told Snape which was why he was desperate to get back and find him. Anyway, go read and I'd love to hear you reactions. I'd say more in response to your remarks but I think I said most of it there and in the discussion I had with jhall1. :-)

Damn, I wish I'd known about that Farscape book coz I bought some books for astrogirl2 last month in return for a favour and that ( ... )

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astrogirl2 July 27 2005, 23:39:40 UTC
I'm pretty sure that book's on my wish list somewhere, although maybe I added it after you looked, I dunno. It hasn't been published yet, anyway.

I did finish the HP last night, btw (well, early this morning), and took a quick look over your post before I left work. More comments will probably follow, here and there, but all I can say for the moment is that there definitely was something going on between Dumbledore and Snape that was not apparent to Harry, and that I really have no idea what it was. It may, indeed, be that Dumbledore was dying anyway, and they both knew it, or that Dumbledore regarded it as worth dying to achieve something (not blowing Snape's cover?) and they both knew it. It's quite possible, btw, that they communicated. Snape could easily have looked into Dumbledore's mind, if Dumbledore let him. But it's not at all clear what is going on, and any theory has to take into account his willingness to make the Vow in the first place, which is certainly, on the face of it, pretty damning. But there's got to be ( ... )

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vilakins July 28 2005, 00:49:45 UTC
It's quite possible, btw, that they communicated.

Ooh, interesting thought. Even if they can only read minds (which Snape obviously can do, so I'd be surprised if Dumbledore can't), they would see each other's thoughts in reaction to their own which would be communication of a sort. Snape's hand did twitch before making the vow so I don't think he was that willing. Maybe he'd been ordered, like when Dumbledore extracted a promise from Harry that he would obey regardless of what he thought or how much danger Dumbledore was in.

More comments will probably follow, here and there

Cool! :-D

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astrogirl2 July 28 2005, 01:01:38 UTC
they would see each other's thoughts in reaction to their own which would be communication of a sort

Right.

Maybe he'd been ordered, like when Dumbledore extracted a promise from Harry that he would obey regardless of what he thought or how much danger Dumbledore was in.

Yes, that thought occurred to me, as well.

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lizamanynames July 28 2005, 02:37:49 UTC
Wow, facinating stuff from you both, here. That whole "silent communication thing" never occured to me, though the "previous orders" did.

And I'm with you, I will be VERY dissapointed if Rowling goes with "oh no, he was evil the whole time"

But then, this *IS* what we have fanfic for, amoung other things.

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astrogirl2 July 28 2005, 03:03:01 UTC
I will be VERY dissapointed if Rowling goes with "oh no, he was evil the whole time"

I really don't think it's likely, of course. There are lots of hints, lots of things that really just don't add up if that's the case, although Snape does do an excellent job of explaining how his actions in previous books could be consistent with loyalty to Voldemort. But the reason I don't believe it is because Dumbledore is no fool, and he'd have to be trust Snape as steadfastly as he does without a better reason than we've so far seen. Dumbledore may make mistakes, but he's the exact polar opposite of a fool, and I just can't see Rowling being willing to make a fool out of him at this late date, y'know?

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lizamanynames July 28 2005, 03:17:39 UTC
*nods* That's pretty much exactly why I refuse to beleive it, too.

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