Comments | liveonearth: How Did the US Government Get this Corrupt?

liveonearth

How Did the US Government Get this Corrupt?

Aug 09, 2007 12:12

I've been blaming our situation on a complacent and comfortable populace. As long as we are fat and happy, we aren't likely to start a revolution. But this editorial (behind cut) proposes that there is an inherent weakness and timidity among liberals---an unwillingness to grasp power and use it ( Read more... )

democracy, 9/11, government, democrats, shrub, america, politics, neocons, cheney, pelosi, power

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liveonearth August 9 2007, 20:21:45 UTC

Yes, I agree that many in our legislative branch have been bought off by corporations, esp pharmaceuticals and military contractors, and don't want to rock the boat because they are getting filthy rich just riding along....I agree. But in order for them to have risen to their positions, they must have once had the ability for critical thinking, speech and action. And I have hopes that in many of them a conscience lies latent, waiting to be awakened by the populace ringing the alarm bells. This is my hope ( ... )

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liveonearth August 9 2007, 21:30:05 UTC

Who was it that committed "suicide" by a shotgun to the back of the head? I think I remember hearing about that suicide....

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neptunia67 August 9 2007, 20:37:21 UTC

Just passing through on a quick break at work. Haven't read the article yet, but in response to your post and question - could it be that our judicial process is so fucked up that they know it could take months, even years, to accomplish what they want? In the case of an impeachment, I bet it would still be in process in Nov '08 if they started now. Even if they had started a year ago. It just seems like our judicial process - for people who have money - is: Hear the judge. Appeal if you don't like what he says. Appeal again. And again.

It's really fucked up, IMO.

is there enough time to impeach? liveonearth August 9 2007, 21:26:03 UTC

Perhaps it is true, that we couldn't possibly get it done in the time frame given. Lots of people say that. Perhaps, if faced with enough evidence and public condemnation, the villains would resign as Nixon did and make quick work of it. Regardless of the fuck-ed-ness of our system, there is no way to un-fuck it without facing it head on. It's not going to un-fuck itself ( ... )

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Re: is there enough time to impeach? liveonearth August 9 2007, 22:03:10 UTC

If Shrub, Cheney, Gonzales et al were impeached, and did not give up power, we would still prove to the world that we the people of the USA do not support these criminals. That reduces the blowback directed at "we the people" and points the blame precisely where it should be, for the world to see. Our national reputation is in tatters and impeachment would do wonders toward restoring it.

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hausfrauatu August 10 2007, 20:03:39 UTC

It's because they have a terror of being called socialists or weak. Whatever. Bush and his cronies are FASCISTS. They have got to go.

I'm a liberal, power hungry feminist ball breaker! LET ME ATTEM! Plus I'm not anti-gun, and I'm rural.

I think baby boomer women with power struggle with their femininity. Pelosi needs to ovary up and take on those asshats. She has 5 kids! She comes from a political family! She needs to just do what I'm sure she knows needs doing. It's like all of the yak yak yak about all this stuff has clouded their brains.

they make me wanna puke.

liveonearth August 18 2007, 22:05:37 UTC

I wrote Pelosi a letter and told her to "ovary up", thanks to you. Heh. And every time I post in the libertarian or Ron Paul groups, they bust me for being a socialist. But I see libertarianism as a logical structure to begin the swing away from "neocon" overspending back toward government fiscal responsibility, after which we can work on the healthcare issue....