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Episode Review: 7x01 - Truth and Consequences

Sep 29, 2009 11:20

There are many things I should be doing right now, including writing up my learning journal from last week's uni class, and also general work, seeing as how I am in the office and all.

But, NCIS is on in America tonight, and I really should put down some thoughts about the premiere of a week ago because otherwise I'll get all wrapped up in the ( Read more... )

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chreesko October 12 2009, 19:19:42 UTC

Hi, I found my way to your journal through following many, many links to fic, and I just wanted to thank you for capping this episode and for your (hilarious) commentary and in-depth discussion of Tony's hotness ( ... )

little_ozzo October 12 2009, 20:32:50 UTC

LOL - you're totally welcome, I'm glad to hear that my rampant Tony-obsession is actually appealing, rather than just weird! ;-)

Oh, the shoulder holster! I really, really hope you're right and we get more of Tony the Cop this season, because I love that part of him. Episode 2 was obviously great for the whole cop thing, and the fact that he still refers to hismelf as a cop, not a fed, and I'm going to join you in hoping that the recurrence of the holster in Ep 3 and also, the whole semi-tutoring he did with the cute young rookie, means they're really going to make an issue of it. And yes! I much prefer the writers/showrunners focusing on that, rather than the Gibbs-DiNozzo (non) similarity. Because you're so right, they're really not alike at all - Gibbs never talks, ever, Tony talks all the time, even if he doesn't say very much; Gibbs is pretty much furious, all the time (I think) whereas Tony has got next to no temper whatsoever. And there are a thousand other differences, I'm sure. Although, saying that I loved the same-wrods ( ... )

chreesko October 13 2009, 00:18:49 UTC

I vacillate about when Tony is at his hottest. When he’s decked out in shoot 'em up gear he is of course incredibly hot (he can point his gun at me any day, ahem), but I also enjoy seeing him with a trench coat and earwig, looking all federal agent-y. But then he takes off the trench and the rolls up his sleeves, and we’re back to Tony the Cop! Rawr. And don’t even get me started on the nice suits. I have such a kink for richboy!Tony. I really hope they send him undercover on an assignment where he has to act like an obnoxious rich person and order pate and make fun of the uneducated peons. And then everyone on the team could be shocked at this previously unseen side of Tony, except for McGee who would probably roll his eyes and go on and on about how he just knew it ( ... )

Part 1 - I'm sorry, it's lengthy! :-) little_ozzo October 13 2009, 10:45:36 UTC

It's a difficult call to make - he's so hot in so many different instances, in so many different ways! Hell to the yes about the running around with a gun hotness - I particularly like him in MW's wikipedia page picture, in the POLICE vest, and in that classic promo pic from S1 or 2, with Kate, where he's crouching low with his gun and following the pair of them through what looks like a train yard. (I would link to pics, but I'm at work and pics are not allowed, so I'd probably link you to somehting really dull or porny by accident. Grr.) But then I love him casual but still totally designer dress-down, like this episode I was watching the other day that I totally can't remember - fail - where he had a black shirt tucked into tight jeans, and I just about passed out. Oh, and the suits! I'm loving the look they're going for so far this season, of the really nice, well-fitting suits with a crisp shirt underneath. And the really nice jackets he's been wearing, too. OMG, I'd watch that episode on repeat/save that fanfic to my favourites ( ... )

Part 1 chreesko October 13 2009, 22:32:46 UTC

I also am sneaking at work! My boss is probably wondering why I've been smiling like a crazy person all day. I wrote this whole thing about how Tony and Gibbs are the same, and then I talked myself out of it. And then into it and out of it again. I have such conflicted feelings about Tony’s complexity! So, anyway, here are my rambly thoughts, but I really do go back and forth on whether I agree with what I wrote so, uh, feel free to talk me out of them.

I was thinking about this in a meeting yesterday (it was a very dull meeting), and for a few minutes I was on the they’re-the-same bandwagon. But now I’ve come back around to thinking that they are different. Gibbs gets angry, but Tony is angry. I can see how that might look the same to other people on the team, but it’s really not. Gibbs is irascible and grumpy and flies off the handle all the damn time, while Tony is much calmer and has almost no temper, but I also feel like Tony hangs on to things longer and internalizes his manpain so that it festers, whereas Gibbs goes after ( ... )

Re: Part 1 little_ozzo October 14 2009, 10:54:47 UTC

Back at work, LOL - there's something about sneakily chatting about NCIS while constantly listening out for my vaguely Gibbs-like boss that makes it even more fun that it is already! I'm going to join the side that talks you into the long posts - I could read and write about Tony's complexities all day long. I mean, I might need mini-breaks to rest my brain and just contemplate what colour shirt suits him best, but on the whole, he's fascinatingThe problem with thinking so very hard about Tony and Gibbs is that the more I search for differences, the more some of their similarities strike me - I'm literally writing this off-the-cuff, so I'm sorry for tangential nonsense - and right now I'm kind of warming to the theory that maybe their core values are very, similar, but the way they deal with their emotions and beliefs and thigns that have happened to them are very different. The main example that started me off on that is that they both seem to be intensely private - but whereas Gibbs is enigmatic because he doesn't talk, and shares ( ... )

Re: Part 1 chreesko October 15 2009, 04:07:29 UTC

Believe it or not, this was my attempt to keep my comments short because I just watched the latest episode and my brain is stuck at “Eeeeeee! Toooony!” I just. I really really really really love Tony. <3 But I’ve obviously failed miserably in my attempt at brevity ( ... )

Re: Part 1 little_ozzo October 15 2009, 10:41:37 UTC

LOL, I believe you, because seriously? Tony! I just love him. I would say I can't even put my love for him into words, but I have been trying to do that now for ages. Tony Tony Tony. And yes! Just saw the last episode as well!

Tony's such an onion. (I could be a total dick here and go into random metaphors about peeling his layers, and that sometimes, doing so makes me cry because of the strength of what's underneath, but I think you get the whole idea. Or are totally cracking up at the loser-ish attempt to explain!) But. Pretty much everything you said, I love. It is so hard to pinpoint what exactly Tony is and where he falls on a scale of things, and there are a million different ways to explain him that would still be in-character. I don't know if the writers intended for him to be ... not quite difficult to read, just very slippery, or if that's just kind of evolved, but I constantly watch him and question just how much he's giving away with everything that he says: how much of what he's projecting is tightly controlled and how ( ... )

1 chreesko October 16 2009, 01:05:11 UTC

I love onion metaphors a really lot, especially when it comes to Tony, so please feel free to indulge ( ... )

Re: 1 little_ozzo October 16 2009, 11:16:53 UTC

Tony really is the fandom shallott. (And, as you encouraged me and also because I thought for a moment I might be getting shallotts and scallops confused, I just googled shallotts and found this: the flavour is of a gentle onion with a flash of garlic and a bit of acidity. Tony!) /ridiculousness

OMG, this! Reading about a Tony who cries and weeps and cuts himself - over his massive insecurity issues and the fact that he didn't get invited to one fricking dinner makes me want to claw my eyes out. Tony intentionally tries to piss Gibbs off when he's being too nice! He may have some issues with attention and abandonment, but they are issues that he copes with really well, even though they do colour his behaviour and attitudes. But Tony was 30 when he met Gibbs, so presumably he'd survived those years without turning into a complete mess - or at least, managed to rescue himself if he did - and yes! He lead the team for four months, and he was on that boat over summer and he wasn't afraid to not be liked - and speaking of hot, the way he ( ... )

Re: 1 chreesko October 20 2009, 03:17:10 UTC

Okay, let's see if I can reply to the proper threads this time. Also, I have given up any pretense of adhering to a word limit. The things this show makes me do ( ... )

Gibbs/Tony specifically :-) little_ozzo October 20 2009, 09:09:39 UTC

Ah! So glad to get onto the Gibbs/DiNozzo thing! They fascinate me, because the relationship is so very often portrayed in fanon as Tony needing Gibbs - his approval, specifically, but also for validation and help or whatever. But the more I watch it, the more I'm totally unconvinced by that. For one thing, given what we've talking about above, I wouldn't be surprised if Tony has created himself to not need anyone. As you said, he dared to leave his family and do his own thing, and he's never been afraid to move on from jobs - and it's not like he ran after Gibbs to Mexico, or had a breakdown while he was away! I think he wants Gibbs approval, and likes to be acknowledged by him, but he'd survive without it. He's incredibly loyal to Gibbs, obviously, and would die for him, I think, but I don't think it's overly needy. In fact, I'd even go as far to say - though I might need to think about this more, so push me a bit further if this doesn't ring true - that Gibbs is actually the needier of the two, in that he needs to be needed. He's ( ... )

Re: Gibbs/Tony specifically :-) chreesko October 22 2009, 14:59:29 UTC

I have so many thoughts, but the last episode ate my brain ( ... )

Re: Gibbs/Tony specifically :-) little_ozzo October 22 2009, 18:22:25 UTC

(Sorry for re-post, I'm anal and need to invest so I can edit comments ( ... )

Uno! little_ozzo October 20 2009, 09:17:09 UTC

Glad to see you're defying the limits of word counts - they're too unfair, and you have no idea how much my day brightened up when I saw your comments! I was very much in the mood for some Tony contemplation.

I weep over onions, but haven't attempted cooking with shallots. I'm not sure I'd be able to, now, it'd be like eating Tony. Oh, no, wait, I am okay with that ( ... )

Re: 1.5 chreesko October 20 2009, 03:18:23 UTC

The thing about Bounce is that Renny, to me, was a fairly unsympathetic character, despite his unusual hotness. Not sure why - something about him just rubbed me the wrong way. I get that he spent three years in prison so we’re supposed to feel badly or whatever, but I spent most of the episode hoping he was guilty of something so that Tony could wipe the smirk off his face. The ending left me feeling unsatisfied because I really wanted someone to whack him over the head and knock him out. From a story-telling point of view, the whole plot was problematic because it was about Our Heroes making a huuuuuge mistake. The writers have brought that up before, that the team or Gibbs might have made a mistake on a case, but they handled it more deftly in those episodes because it wasn’t the whole entire focus of the show. And if Our Heroes must be outsmarted, I don’t want them to be outsmarted by someone so obnoxious. All that aside, I take back what I said before about hating Bounce - I just remembered that I once vowed to love it forever ( ... )

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