Episode Review: 7x01 - Truth and Consequences

[little_ozzo]

There are many things I should be doing right now, including writing up my learning journal from last week's uni class, and also general work, seeing as how I am in the office and all.

But, NCIS is on in America tonight, and I really should put down some thoughts about the premiere of a week ago because otherwise I'll get all wrapped up in the

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[slashedshi]

And Gibbs is superhuman, -gigglensort MWAHAHA-

I love the idea of Tony being the older brother. Cause I have them and I know for a fact that if someone was picking on me or etc I wouldn't got o my daddy(who is the most awesome ever)[read the Gibbs] I'd go to them and they take care of it.

That is totally Tony to me. I wish there was fic where Abby needed Tony to take care of somebody, and Kate found out and Abby had to explain that.

Older brothers are half parent/halfJERK. But no matter what they fight to the death for you, they teach you things without making you feel stupid cause that's they're job. That's where my love of Tony+McGee friendship stems from. -happy sigh-

I totally think Tony deserves his own team, I just don't think he wants a new team. When he takes over for Gibbs, hes still basically DiNozzo-Senior Field Agent, just a really stressed out senior field agent.

never really considered Jenny his boss either, I don't think, even during the Jeanne undercover op
I love that. I agree completely. When he tells her he had to lie to Gibbs, hes all unsure and pissed at the same time. Cause he doesn't consider his loyalty to her, he just has to follow orders.

[little_ozzo]

It's canon now, right:? ;-)

I'm an only child, so that's interesting to read! He is very much the big brother, and I love that: half parent, half jerk!

Yeah, the moments they've shown him being in charge, he always seems really stressed out by it. He seems a little more relaxed in some parts of Shalom and Escaped, but the strain definitely doesn't sit too happily with him. And I've never thought he needed to be needed the way Gibbs does, either. But, I do still think he'd be a great team leader. I just don't think he'd want another team. And I'm not that convinced, right now, that McGee wouldn't follow him, if he went.

He's just so very distressed at having to lie to Gibbs, and she actually calls him on who he calls his boss more than once - like in Hiatus. I think he respected Jenny, and recognised her authority, but Gibbs' would always override hers. And then I get to the question of just why he accepted that undercover op in the first place - and my brain is a bit overtaxed at the moment, saving you more inane chatter! ;-)

[slashedshi]

I love insane chatter! and surprising I can follow mindless babble for like HOURS, so yay!

I always half on the fence with Jenny, sometimes I like her, and all her little "I know things you you dont want dinozzo to know gibbs" and then her other side of being....weird....

Either way! My friend and I came up with an Evil!Jeny idea, where she basicly tells Tony undercover, or no more team. and Then theres the nice Jenny version, he just took it because he was asked by his boss, and it made him feel wanted.

[little_ozzo]

Mindless babble is something I am always ready to supply! ;-)

I'm kind of on the fence with Jenny too, although I think I mostly fall on the side of liking her - although I have a tendency to kind of like everyone, or at least pay so much attention to Tony and not to them that I have few feeligns on the subject! I'm a very lazy viewer, except when it comes to the hottest guys. Shallow, I know! I thought she could be quite cool, and funny, and she was so pretty, but I didn't always like her slow voiced delivery. I didn't mind her past with Gibbs, but she wasn't my favourite person ever. And I have to admit, people probably have very good arguments about her being useless at her job, she seemed to take an awful lot of risks and was a mess over the Grenouille mission - although I liked that she was invovled way over her head, it was interesting!

Ooh, I hadn't thought about an evil!Jenny option, that's cool!

[skalja]

I think Jenny had a lot of potential ... but she was so badly derailed, first by all the "flashbacks to Paris" ridiculousness, and then they just kept harping and harping on the Grenouille plotline until it just consumed her character. She had interesting dynamics with characters besides Gibbs -- Tony, obviously, and also Ziva -- that barely got any play.

[little_ozzo]

I'd probably agree with all of that. She had a lot of potential - especially with her relationship with Ziva, which they never really played to its fullest, I thought - but she kind of got a bit stuck. Which was a shame, because when she was fun, she was really fun! But I do have to admit, I did get a little frustrated when the show spent a lot of screentime on her and not enough, therefore, on pretty Tony. ;-)

[skalja]

See, if they'd expanded on the whole Tony/Jenny/Gibbs dynamic (less of the zomg!betrayal, more of the shifting power/trust aspects), then we could have had both! But yeah, what was up with her and Ziva?

[little_ozzo]

That could have been a fantastic triangle! The writers really could have taken advantage of those relationships. Oh, I remember what I was going to say before and forgot - the slashy part of my brain loved when Tony and Jenny were in a scene together talking about "Jethro", because it could be itnerpreted as Gibbs' two lovers together. Or something. That sounded way better in my head.

Yeah, I don't know, when they first arrived they were all secret history blah blah, Ziva saving Jenny's life in the past, but then we rarely got to see them interacting that much - and Ziva wasn't overly upset when she died. Maybe it was a response to viewers at the time, because both characters seemed to face a bit of a negative backlash, so maybe they decided not to make their friendship so prominent? I don't know. Untapped potential, though.

[slashedshi]

Ooo Gibbs two lovers, yes INDEEd. I love that angle, and when I think of Nice!Jenny shes always really surportive actually. Like she just likes teasing Gibbs of their past, because he cant deny it.

I was disappointed that they never elaborated on the Ziva+Jenny friendship.

As for Ziva not being really sad, Evil!Jenny comes tgo mind. Like Ziva was mad at her or ....something over the whole thing with poor Tony and she lost her faith in Jenny...maybe. I paid more attn. to Tony.

[little_ozzo]

I think whenever I watch Jenny from now on, I'm totally going to be imagining her with multiple personality disorder!

And as for apying more attention to Tony: word. I actually have to remind myself, sometimes, to watch what else is going on in a scene. He's very eye-catching. ;-)

[slashedshi]

Eye-catching is putting it mildly. The only time I look at someone else is when Gibbs is there. Cause I'm A Gibbs/DiNozzo girl forevers. Their really my favorite relionship on the show, even if i dont slash them.

[little_ozzo]

From a slash or non-slash POV, I definitely find their relationship really fascinating. Probably the most fascinating on the show, and even though I like other pairings (Tony/Tim, Tony/Paula, Tony/Ziva, Tony/absolutely anyone, really), they just have such great chemistry, however you choose to analyse it. I think one of the reasons that is for me is because Tony just seems so very loyal to Gibbs, and despite the headslaps and reticence on Gibbs' part, he seems to really trust DiNozzo. But the why and how that came to be isn't really explained, and that makes it even more interesting!

[slashedshi]

I am a firm believer in the Gibbs Head Slap means something special. Pretty sure I read a fic once, where it was that Tony got so lost in his Babble that the head slap was to knock him out of it, and thats why Tony sometimes syas Thank you so...sweatly.

[little_ozzo]

Yeah! Like Gibbs said once, the headslap is a wakeup call, a slap on the face would be humiliating, so for Tony the slap is usually to get him back on track - and it makes him feel wanted! *g*

And then there's my own personal fanon that Tony really likes and craves physical contact, because he was denied it as a child or it was only given to him in a negative way, and so a headslap from Gibbs, who means so much to him (slashy or father/son or mentor POV) doesn't confuse him too much. He wouldn't know what to do with too many hair ruffles etc, but a slap manages to be both affectionate and a kind of warning to sharpen up.

[slashedshi]

I love when you say things that I've thought, but totally didn't think to say.

I read once, That Gibbs finds out that Tony was abused and he stopped slapping him epside the head ebcause he was afraid Tony was just letting him because of the "father" thing. But then Tony went into great detail about how he was never afraid of Gibbs hurting him, or abusing him in any way cause Gibbs was a good guy. Or something like that.

It was awesomly sweet.

[little_ozzo]

I think I may have read the same fic, but can't recall title/author. I may come across it when I'm browsing through my links - but I remember Gibbs cutting back on the slaps and Tony telling him he wasn't afraid of him. Which he totally isn't! :-)