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hagar_972 May 6 2015, 09:08:20 UTC
Ribs. Ribs also also good. Specifically, you want to go for the lowest rib (on either side), also known as the "flying rib" - it's not very well connected to the spine. The kidneys (lower abdoment, either side, accessible from either front or back) are also an excellent target - a good whack to the kidneys is potentially life-threatening (and you can land one of those with a whip, let alone with a baseball bat) and definitely debilitating (with pain) in the short term ( ... )

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tamtrible May 7 2015, 03:49:09 UTC
Are you calling Root and Shaw violent?

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hagar_972 May 7 2015, 08:17:31 UTC
I'm saying the OP's description sounds as if it could be Shaw, in her present canon situation or whereabouts. If it is, I could probably better tailor my suggestions to Shaw's specific background.

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tamtrible May 7 2015, 08:23:52 UTC
Text does not convey facial expression or tone. I was teasing.

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hagar_972 May 7 2015, 08:57:15 UTC
Ah, okay then :)

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tamtrible May 7 2015, 17:33:25 UTC
'cause, well, if you have been paying attention to the show at all, you know the proper answer to that is "Yes."

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robert_huff May 7 2015, 13:03:47 UTC
Not "Person of Interest" - private universe still in development.

Unarmed combat: she's training, enough to calculate her skills are not ready for showtime and what she does know mostly doesn't apply. Hence the two-handed club: crude, but effective.

Follow-up: pain notwithstanding, will busting a few ribs be enough to keep the guard from pulling/holding/aiming the gun?
Elbow or shoulder would do that for sure, but ... ribs?

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hagar_972 May 7 2015, 13:24:21 UTC
Ribs: oh, yes. Very much yes. Broken ribs make it incredibly painful just to breathe, and nearly impossible to move. If the rib's properly broken instead of just cracked, there are also terrific odds of it puncturing something. Like the liver, or a lung. Break a rib right off the spine ( ... )

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robert_huff May 7 2015, 14:15:22 UTC
She's around 65 kg/145 lb and 1.75m/5'9".

Her training (so far) is defensive - similar to aikido, with a few hard-to-block cheap shots designed to give her a chance to run. Occam's Razor says the guard may have better training than she does; ergo, stay out of reach and fight dirty.

Not only is the club a possible defensive tool, but it maximizes power from both arms and the hips/legs.

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hagar_972 May 7 2015, 16:40:19 UTC
Oh, she's pretty skinny for that height. Body composition? How much of that is muscle - about average, hobby athlete, pro athlete? Also, unless this is set in Belgium or something like that, she'll be very nearly the guard's height, which changes the game.

Aikido's excellent. The main thing even minimal (weeks) Aikido training will give her is knowing how to maximize force. For maximum effectiveness, mix it with krav maga. Krav maga's all about maximum damage in minimum moves; it makes a potent combo with Aikido. Aikido's a soft empty-hand art, so it'll give her about nothing with regards to knowing where to hit for maximum damage. (On the other hand, if someone tries to land a hand on her, they'll be in for a surprise.) Krav maga will cover that angle. (Amusingly, everything I said above I learned from a person with this training combo.)

Assuming your MC has hobby-athlete muscle % or better and knows how to work from the hips, she can very easily kill with something akin to a baseball bat. And I very much second the kidneys as ( ... )

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