setting a kite in the air on fire

Jan 18, 2015 13:01

The setting for the story is mid-1700s, Prussia ( Read more... )

~fires, 1730-1739

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orange_fell January 19 2015, 05:19:26 UTC
I was thinking fire arrows too. But there's actually nothing in the given dialogue that says they light the kite on fire in the air, as opposed to before launching it.

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elenbarathi January 19 2015, 05:57:46 UTC
A person would have to be pretty good with a bow, to hit a flying kite. Also, where would these arrows be coming down, tipped with flaming tar or whatever?

A three-minute fuse would not be too heavy, and would give plenty of time for the kite to get altitude before it caught fire. I've been presuming the old-fashioned bamboo-and-newspaper kind of kite, which would flare up beautifully if freshly spray-painted, and would probably be light enough to stay aloft while it burned, even after the kite-string was burned through.

I think a store-bought nylon kite would fall right out of the sky as soon as the string detached, and then there's the question of where that little fire-bomb would be landing.

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openidwouldwork January 19 2015, 06:29:17 UTC
But where to get bamboo, spray-paint, hair spray or nylon in mid-1700s, Prussia?

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elenbarathi January 19 2015, 11:54:35 UTC
Use cane or laths instead of bamboo, then, and thin silk instead of nylon or paper. The Prussians did have both turpentine-based paint and lacquer-based hair or wig products, but they also naphtha, and a silk kite painted in that would make a glorious blaze. If you had the kind of burning fuse called a 'slow match', you'd have as much time as you needed, and not much fear of it going out before it reached the naphtha-soaked silk.

No idea whether such a kite would burn out fast enough to not set the Prussian forest on fire when it came down. Maybe fly it over a lake at night; that would be pretty as well as prudent.

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alley_skywalker January 19 2015, 19:16:18 UTC
Wow, so much stuff! Thanks for all the info. (And yea...flying over a lake would be smart.

Follow up question: would silk burn/catch on fire more easily than paper? Because I was thinking that paper would be pretty flammable.

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elenbarathi January 19 2015, 23:09:58 UTC
You're welcome! LOL, my ex, my kid's Dad, is a kite-maker and a pyromaniac; I'm going to tell my daughter to mention this flaming-kite idea to him, and see if maybe he'll try it for real.

Natural silk doesn't catch fire that easily, and it tends to smolder rather than flame. Untreated paper would just smolder too, if it lit at all in the wind. Anything painted with naphtha would go up like a torch the instant a spark touches it. It's outrageously flammable; may have been the prime ingredient in Greek fire.

Silk would burn longer than paper. Whether silk or paper, as soon as it's burned away too much to hold the air, the sticks will fall. The advantage of using naphtha on silk would be that the naphtha would burn bright, but the silk under it would hold up a while, like a candle-wick or lantern-mantle does. It might even be that the naphtha would burn off and go out before the silk itself caught fire ( ... )

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full_metal_ox January 22 2015, 23:00:28 UTC
You realize that this could be a job for the Mythbusters.

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elenbarathi January 22 2015, 23:26:47 UTC
I was thinking that too!

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