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direwolfdragon November 27 2011, 16:33:50 UTC
As for the fingerprints- they might. There are great pushes to have children fingerprinted just in case they were kidnapped. I remember getting this done back in the eighties and two of my younger cousins had this done in the late eighties and early nineties.

Since photos are widely distributed in the case of Amber alerts, I am sure the children's photos would be given to the press.

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rosehiptea November 27 2011, 16:36:44 UTC
Since photos are widely distributed in the case of Amber alerts, I am sure the children's photos would be given to the press.

Yes, if we're talking about the U.S., I have certainly seen pictures of underage kidnap victims in the press.

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liliaeth November 27 2011, 16:48:53 UTC
Oh? responses at ask_a_cop said that they wouldn't allow that kind of information to be given to the press.

Might be because the children were rescued, and the amber alerts are given before the children are found.

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rosehiptea November 27 2011, 16:51:19 UTC
Oh I'm sorry, I read your post wrong. If they are already rescued then it's totally different.

ETA: However, I do think the police would be able to match them up with missing person's records even though they were taken across state lines. Unless for some reason they were never reported as missing, which would be pretty odd (but I don't watch Supernatural...)

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liliaeth November 27 2011, 19:01:29 UTC
I'm thinking that over half of the kids were runaways or children living on the streets. In Dean's case, he was taken while trying to get money to pay the rent while John was delayed on a hunt. Sam would have tried to get the cops to look for Dean, but I'm guessing that in the situation, with a father leaving two children, one age 14 and the other age 10, that Dean was seen as a possible runaway. Especially since the night in question, Sam was staying at a friend's place for a sleepover.

John's parental rights were terminated, since with Dean gone, they ended up with a ten year old left alone on the street during winter.

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direwolfdragon November 27 2011, 17:08:13 UTC
I too had read your post wrong- I thought the children were still missing and being sought

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rosehiptea November 27 2011, 17:12:42 UTC
I did a little googling myself, and it looks like sometimes the police will make exceptions about releasing pictures when the parents of the found child are unknown. However it seems to be more of a local thing:

http://local.nixle.com/alert/4677416/

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=7292651

Not sure if the specific circumstances there will work for your story, especially since it looks like the first child just got lost and the second was abandoned, but maybe that will help.

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liliaeth November 27 2011, 19:03:07 UTC
Interesting articles, and it gives some room for thought. Just need to find a way for John and Sam to find out that Dean's been found. Then again, just hearing that a kid Dean's age was found, might be enough to get John to go look into it.

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giveyoulife November 27 2011, 16:38:44 UTC
There is a police booth at almost every annual town fair in my area (Connecticut) specifically for getting little kids fingerprinted. I don't know how long they've had such a prominent presence, but I was fingerprinted in the very early 90s at such a fair.

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liliaeth November 27 2011, 16:42:11 UTC
hmm, the only problem with that, is that I don't see John Winchester allowing Dean and Sam to be fingerprinted like that. Or you know, have them any more in the system than he absolutely has to.

But at least it might be one way for them to identify some of the other kids that were taken.

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etiennewestwind November 27 2011, 17:26:55 UTC
I just responded to your ask a cop post with my recollection of being fingerprinted and other ways the cops could identify the children without releasing the names. In the case of the fingerprint cards mom used on Sibling and me, she kept the cards. They would only have been given to police if one of us disappeared.

I'm not that familiar with Supernatural, so I don't know if that's something he'd be willing to do. Also, you mentioned foster care at ask a cop. If both brothers were in foster care at one point, Dean may have been fingerprinted anyway.

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liliaeth November 27 2011, 19:05:35 UTC
Only the younger ended up in foster care, and even then only after the older one was taken.

I think the problem would be that the fingerprint station is run by cops and the father, John, is a paranoid survivalist at the best. The fact that he often impersonates law enforcement officers and has a history of felonies, would not incline him to get his children near anything to do with police officers.

But it should work in regards to the other kids, that they could be identified based on their parents having done so for their children.

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cuneiforms November 27 2011, 18:28:54 UTC
In my experience, the fingerprint cards are given to the parents. The police do not keep them on file.

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