King John of England's Friends

Aug 15, 2011 23:10

Setting: England, 1190 - 1192 ( Read more... )

~middle ages

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dragonbat2006 August 15 2011, 23:51:09 UTC
dragonbat2006 April 18 2017, 18:53:00 UTC
hey lol

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samtyr August 15 2011, 23:53:02 UTC
Maybe going back and studying his extended family, especially his parents (Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine) would help? But I don't really think he had friends -- cronies, maybe -- but not friends.

As for de Braose, (iirc) John had a falling out with him and imprisoned the man's wife and one of his sons until they died. (He also imprisoned some of the man's grandsons but they lived.

Hope this helps some.

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hyarrowen August 16 2011, 00:07:22 UTC
This comm http://plantagenesta.livejournal.com/ might be able to help.

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transemacabre August 16 2011, 04:44:57 UTC
Ooooh! Something about my favorite Plantagenet ( ... )

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zydee August 16 2011, 06:22:23 UTC
I totally hearted this post, just FYI.

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xolo August 16 2011, 15:03:28 UTC
This is why I love reading this group! It doesn't matter how obscure the question, there's always someone who's studied the subject, and is willing to share.

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syntinen_laulu August 16 2011, 13:00:26 UTC
I’ve always suspected that the deepest attachments of medieval royalty were actually to people of such low rank that their names are rarely known to history. You might rarely have spoken to your parents or your siblings (even supposing you lived in the same household as them, which was by no means a given); but your nanny, and the groom who put you on your first pony aged three, were reliable constants in your life.

But these people were by definition always inferior to oneself in rank, totally reliant on one’s favour and obliged to obey. (About the only realistically medieval thing in Ridley Scott’s film Robin Hood was John’s affection for his fictional foster-brother. Movie-John has a huge emotional and practical reliance on Godfrey but takes for granted that he can kick him around, and that their relationship is and should be all about him and not Godfrey ( ... )

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syntinen_laulu August 16 2011, 14:31:04 UTC
yeah, like white slave-owners' children being brought up by slaves in the pre-war South USA. Lots of hang-ups. Splitting, transference, projection; hatred, aggression, deep fear of the (secretly intimate) Other.

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