What makes it a "Jacobite" table - has it got Stuart badges or slogans carved on it? I thought at first that that might be a typo for "Jacobean", but it doesn't look old enough to be that.
I didn't see any heraldry or such on the table. It looks like is missing some bits on the wood on the underside. I'll have to ask them on that one. I do know there are some Scot ancestors in the tree. Might have something to do with the great great grandfather in kilt portrait. You kinda have to pry the stories out of these folks, drives the restoration guy loopy.
I think what syntinen_laulu meant was is it really associated with the Jacobite rebellion, or is it from the Jacobean period:) (the terms get mixed up a lot-your expert might have written it down wrong) Either way- SCORE!! thanks so much for posting the pics!
The family, restorer, the heritage society and government office that gave the yay/nay on exporting it from England in the 50s and the previous insurance folks all listed it as a Jacobite table now what they mean by that I just don't know.
gotcha..hmm. looks like it could be either, really, I just haven't heard Jacobite used to describe anything but before.I'm curious though- are 217 and 218 pix of the folding legs? I saw some renaissance Italian folding chairs that worked how you describe these, but the pix make it look pretty massive.
Yes that's how the legs notch into each other and spin out on each other. I rack my brain trying to think of ways to describe it since there is no hardware involved in the legs. The whole thing is roughly 3' tall 4' wide and 6' long set up. All the furniture legs are farm dog and toddler chewed over the years.
If I know what I'm looking at here, It's very well designed...each leg should turn on a dowel/peg in the pivotal upright, that's set into a horizontal support piece on the underside of the table-that's how its usually done- metal tends to rust, or just doesn't expand and contract with the wood, so metal hardware doesn't work as well as fitted pegs. There might should be another horizontal brace about halfway down that prevents them moving vertically? It might even pivot on both of them?(I'm terrible in musuems and antique shops, always trying to look at the seamy underside XD) thanks for satisfying curiousity though!
Bu the details are in the seamy underside. The letter desk is of an age and design that before you open it you must pull out these two struts of wood to rest the writing surface on. The lid of the blanket chest does not stay up on its own you must hold or brace it. There are 4 steps in setting up the table, the leaves are heavy buggers. The clocks must be wound every night before bed. The keys to locks are tiny and easy to lose. These details change how people/characters in historical settings interact with the objects. The stitching sampler tells me teens haven't changed much because she put little pink kitty cats in the design around all that formal verse. That era's version of glitter icons? And of course in attitudes, up till modern era people kept things because they still had a use for them not because they were valuable collector items.
It is however a very nifty table. There are holes on the underside of the leaves from even older hinge sets and some missing pieces. The legs fold in nest on each other, then turn out in a zigzag and but up against a wood wedge on the leaf. The whole thing is a 6' long oval. All oak. You can sit chairs at it despite the layout of the legs.
Confirmation from husband who just got in from work. It is from the Jacobean period everyone just casually misuses Jacobite to refer to it. really is that old so it is in very good shape.
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I'll have to ask them on that one. I do know there are some Scot ancestors in the tree. Might have something to do with the great great grandfather in kilt portrait.
You kinda have to pry the stories out of these folks, drives the restoration guy loopy.
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Either way- SCORE!! thanks so much for posting the pics!
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before.I'm curious though- are 217 and 218 pix of the folding legs? I saw some renaissance Italian folding chairs that worked how you describe these, but the pix make it look pretty massive.
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support piece on the underside of the table-that's how its usually done- metal tends to rust, or just doesn't expand and contract with the wood, so metal hardware doesn't work as well as fitted pegs. There might should be another horizontal brace about halfway down that prevents them moving vertically? It might even pivot on both of them?(I'm terrible in musuems and antique shops, always trying to look at the seamy underside XD)
thanks for satisfying curiousity though!
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The stitching sampler tells me teens haven't changed much because she put little pink kitty cats in the design around all that formal verse. That era's version of glitter icons?
And of course in attitudes, up till modern era people kept things because they still had a use for them not because they were valuable collector items.
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All oak. You can sit chairs at it despite the layout of the legs.
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