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[litl_albatross]

Bandwagon ho!

Relationship meme, essay meme, whatever. You want to know things about River, Kaylee, or Sophie, ask them here. Maybe I will actually finish a meme. STRANGER THINGS HAVE OCCURRED.

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[worthtempting]

I always saw Francescu as Sophie's second-favorite brother--she seems to spend more time with Manfred just relaxing than she does with Francescu, but she does safeguard Francescu's fingerbone and I do imagine that he'd probably be the only other sibling to let her stay in his home without prejudice. That's why what he did hurt her so much--Sophie doesn't ask for help often, so to be refused on something that important hurt her very deeply. Then she came to camp to find that Francescu has given himself to other people, and has a trust and a willingness to act for them that he didn't have for her. In a way, that was almost a second betrayal, because Sophie has a thing about being inadequate, and the fact that her pleading wasn't enough to bring Francescu down from his tower but that these people to whom he had no ties were enough made her believe she is far less important to him than she thought. Ouch. On top of that, Francescu is letting people hurt him, which both completely boggles her and scares her into thinking that he's going to withdraw from the world again, and then hurt her again in the same way that her-timeline!Francescu did. Sophie is just a little paranoid, yeah.

On the other hand, on the same day, Manfred accused Sophie of doing something that she didn't do. The difference there, of course, is that Sophie really didn't do it, but it made her think. Sophie is, despite her hurt, trying to accept this new Francescu and be friendly with him, because it really hurt her when Manfred accused her of betrayal. She's trying to believe that there is something about camp that alters people's behavior and perceptions, and that if she just tries hard enough things will become clear and she'll forgive Francescu and Manfred will forgive her and just maybe they can be as happy as Gargamels get.

As for Christine--well, you can see what I wrote to Simon above. Sophie is far more afraid that Christine is going to ruin things here for them, or hurt one of the people that Sophie has established a tentative relationship with, and generally screw all the Gargamels. She's mildly afraid for her physical wellbeing, of course, because her policy of not fighting back isn't going to change.

Sophie is putting together the fact that Francescu doesn't plan on going home, and she's not sure how to feel about it. On one hand, another sibling potentially out of the legacy, on the other hand, he's leaving us for Those Other People. So she's very torn. Because even if they don't get along that well, all they really seem to have is each other.

So, to summarize, Sophie was fond of Francescu, which is why she's still feeling really hurt but is trying to get over it because it genuinely seems to bother him, which means he's really changed. She wants to fix her relationship with both him and Manfred (no plans for Christine, of course), and she wants to understand how he changed. She does want him to be happy, and take happiness where he can find it, but she also wants to understand WTF happened, exactly, and what makes these people so much better and more important than her. Or, you know, works up the courage to actually talk to Francescu about this. If they'd actually be able to be open with each other, it'd probably solve all their problems. Terry might enable that, if things with him actually go okay.

Also, she doesn't realize that Terry would EVER approach Francescu. Cause Francescu is way more imposing than Christine and she hasn't equated the concept of Terry not wanting her to come to physical harm and any sort of emotional harm at all. And if she finds out he does...eheh. She'd probably defend Francescu fiercely if she walked in on it.

...This was not as coherent as I'd liked to have been. SOMEDAY I WILL ESSAY MASSIVELY.

[fingeroflife]

...man. They really do need to just sit down and talk. Which is the story of our canon, really! Six-sevenths of all the bitterness and distrust and hate are all misunderstandings. It's one of the most poignant things about the story IMO.

And honestly, Francescu feels like he owes Sophie some openness, and if she approached him he'd talk. But he doesn't quite have the courage to initiate it, because he doesn't want to fuck up, and he KNOWS he's bad with people and twice as bad with siblings, no matter how well things have seemed to turn out with Manfred. And the only reason that he hasn't told her he isn't going home is that he's afraid of hurting her again, before she understands why he might make that choice and that she can make the same choice if she wants. Both of which he thinks will come to her as the relentless niceness of camp and possibly Terry's romantic attentions seep into her Gargamel-forged mindset, and neither of which he's sure he can really explain, being less sublimely conscious of his mindset and thought processes than I, his player, am. (Not that I'm always sublimely conscious, mind! But I understand him better than he does.)

...and I really need to essay on Francescu and family and pseudofamily (hi, ZERO!) and not!family (hi, Omi!) and friendship. (You're getting moderate chunks of that essay in disjointed form.) Essaying massively is the natural consequence of playing a Gargamel!

[my_name_now]

(And dating one, apparently.)

[fingeroflife]

(That too.)

[pellameno]

And being a Gargamel means your relationship meme gets spammed by Fran and Ken's players.

[fingeroflife]

Well, yes. That's an inevitable consequence of...well, us. I think.

[pellameno]

They love us anyway? Or rather, for it.

...I hope Sophie realizes our capsfest is one of love. ^_^;;

[fingeroflife]

Clearly they do!

...well, she will now, at least. Despite my sardonic last comment. XD;

[litl_albatross]

You two had BETTER love each other ;`p

[fingeroflife]

Oh, definitely.

[my_name_now]

Terry is not scared one iota of Francescu or Christine. He's seen bigger and badder, in his time, and he's not entirely helpless against them, anyway... no matter how much camp at large might think he is. The conversation is going to happen, at one point or another, but to his credit his intention isn't to 'grind things in Francescu's face' as his mun so kindly put it (OI, BOYFRIEND!), it's just to go, "hey. you can touch your family, too, maybe that might make things a little better. stop being an ass." He doesn't understand your world, and he doesn't give a shit about politics. Francescu's player and I have discussed maybe giving him certain memories to help him understand, but I don't think it would make too much of a difference... Terry's pretty stubborn when he believes in something, and I don't see caring about someone as a belief that he's changing, anytime soon. Which is part of what makes him a not-so-great Bat. But he tries, and he always means well. In any case, I don't think it would be a fight so much as a discussion they both leave from fairly upset, and possibly with a few new revelations.

And hey. Maybe if Fran does get upset, Ken will be able to help and feel like less of a fuck up.

I struck all that out 'cuz you people did. XP

[worthtempting]

I DON'T KNOW YOU'RE A BAT, KAY??? ♥

More seriously, while Sophie has seen, and fought, the devil, other than that and Elder Things, her family's the scariest thing she knows of. And what with the not knowing about the Bat business, Sophie thinks he's just a normal human, and normal humans in the UL verse are clearly considered pretty helpless against sorcerers (everyone thinks Violet is helpless, for example).

I'm all for Terry and Fran having this chat. Because while Terry WILL probably give Sophie the knowledge about how real people interact so she can eventually screw up her courage to confront Fran about her emo, it'd be nice to get it sorted without 'Sophie gets her courage up' time. Which could possibly be lengthy. Because it's Sophie.

[my_name_now]

You wouldn't know what it meant, anyway!

Also more seriously. Being a bat means being resourceful, and thinking on your feet, and finding ways around impossible odds. The episode I count as making Terry feel like he wasn't just some kid in a suit---that he might actually be able to pull off the Batman gig---was when the suit, which is ten times stronger and faster than Terry, got hijacked and he had to fight it. Bare-handed, and without Bruce's help. Before that point, he was just a random guy who knew how to kick ass and happened to get handed some nifty gadgets. Francescu would ultimately top Terry, but even though he's a normal, boring human, he's not as helpless as Sophie is probably thinking.

AND TO MAKE THIS LONGER. Courage-up time is overrated, and can be bypassed by a few good conversations from outside parties. ^_~

[litl_albatross]

This is quite true! PREJUDICE AGAINST THE NORMALS FTL.

Sadly, I haven't actually seen your show ;`( But Sophie's prejudice is solely based on the fact that a) in her world, people who have no magic are seen as more fragile than those who do and b) she has no idea what technology and ordinary resourcefulness can do. Sophie hasn't had normal human strength and endurance since she was ten, after all, and looking bigger in her world isn't the same as being stronger (the Devil was shorter than Violet! And Francescu is described to be a scrawny bitch). Plus, she's got no idea what Terry's past was like at all, cause they haven't talked about that. Once she sees him in action, she'll definitely change her mind about him being able to handle himself. Which, of course, won't change the fact that she doesn't want him to get hurt on her behalf, but you get that.

[my_name_now]

I need to re-pimp my show. I've been a lone canon warrior for months now. And they'll talk about Terry's past at... some point. He's not a deep sharing person at camp, in general, with anyone but Robin. Just because he was telling himself he'd have to leave, so he shouldn't make any connections. But then he made friends with Speed, and they started living together so connection was inevitable. And Kairi made him talk. And Sophie is... yeah. He wants connection. So he'll start sharing eventually, and then he'll WTF and panic and it'll be awesome. :Db

Oh, and because he's probably reading this. Your brother is totally a scrawny bitch, his boyfriend needs to convince him to work out.

[fingeroflife]

...gee, y'think? And yes, Fran is a scrawny bitch, with his ONE WORD of canon description. Who can summon up lost empires, and hold the stars in his hands.

(And yes, he will start working out if Ken suggests it. So, so topped. And after the latest ZERO incident he's starting to see the advantages of being in better shape. He will suck at it at first, and laugh at himself, and get better.)