religion in school

Mar 04, 2008 08:48

In Romania kids study religion even in highschool. Now they have an option not to, if their parents express their will in this direction. Mind you, they don't study the history of religions or any other similar thing that would expand their cultural horizon. No. Religion. Catechism. The majority being Orthodox Christians, they study that. Kids from ( Read more... )

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lisa_thecat March 4 2008, 08:48:01 UTC
I can't tell you exactly, but I suppose the level of literacy is pretty big, because it had been a very serious objective of communist times and when they set their minds to do something, they did it thoroughly. (and forced.) but, especially in rural areas, people still listen to the priest more than anybody else. honestly, i have no idea why even educated people are very intolerant to other religions especially.

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lisa_thecat March 4 2008, 08:57:34 UTC
I remember a scene from the ER waiting 'room'. The ambulance brought a guy from a prison near Focsani. It was a young man with a nasty wound in his abdomen. The people who were waiting for the ER doctor to wake up, like me, were commenting that there must have been a fight in prison. They pitied the man: "So young! The youth today! And THEY want to pull religion out of schools!"

Hello! When there was no religion is schools there was less violence in schools and actually less sex in schools... The religion class didn't make the kids any sainter.

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naked_runner March 4 2008, 09:30:20 UTC
The literacy level is very high, higher than many Western countries. It has nothing to do with literacy.

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naked_runner March 4 2008, 09:36:58 UTC
Probabil e o reactie la atitia ani in care practicarea religiei a fost interzisa. Plus, lumea e atit de dezorientata si de confuza, incit in ce sa mai aiba incredere decit in Biserica si in Mama Omida. Si multi profita de pe urma asta. Cum sa isi justifice BOR banii primiti din toate partile? Trebuie sa aiba activitate, sa prospere, toti popii sa-si umple burtile si sa conduca Jeep-uri.

Fundamentalismul e o chestie foarte profitabila pentru politica. E mai usor de minat o turma de creduli care se ghideaza dupa niste unii care decid pentru ei ce sa gindeasca si ce sa faca.

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lisa_thecat March 4 2008, 09:53:59 UTC
practicarea religiei nu a fost interzisa. descurajata. dar nu ca in Cuba. membrilor de partid cred ca le era interzis. dar nu toti erau membri de partid. si toti sarbatoream Pastele si Craciunul totusi.

eu chiar nu inteleg de ce elementele extremiste din doctrina au prins asa bine. de ce sunt oamenii asa de intoleranti, inclusiv cei mai rasariti, mai educati.

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naked_runner March 4 2008, 10:03:29 UTC
Nu interzisa oficial. Dar in anii '50-'60 daca te turna careva ca ai facut brad de Craciun sau ca te-ai dus la biserica, te lua Securitatea.

Educatia nu da si inteligenta. Cunosc multi care au citit biblioteci intregi si au urmat scoli si tot cretini sunt. Si parca cu cit au mai multa educatie, cu atit devin mai evlaviosi si mai intoleranti. Poate ca asta e singurul lucru care le-a mai ramas. E o prostie, sa te agati de astfel de chestii, dar parca sunt si mai inraiti de ce se intimpla si devin si mai intoleranti. Nu cred ca au nevoie de un motiv real, e de ajuns un pretext oarecare. Daca nu sunt homosexualii si lesbienele, sunt ungurii, Daca nu sunt ungurii e Uniunea Europeana care ne impune sa fim civilizati, si de ce sa ne invete ei, cind noi stim de la Decebal si Burebista, etc, etc.

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lisa_thecat March 4 2008, 10:28:00 UTC
nu stiu de anii 50, dar dupa aceea nu au fost probleme. tin minte ca intr-un an noaptea, la slujba de Pasti au oprit curentul electric in zona - probabil un gest facut special. dar a fost superb sa stam chiar la lumina lumanarilor. si a devenit o amintire fundamentala pentru mine.

si cum am putut sa-i uit pe unguri? faimosii unguri care nu au alta grija decat sa ravneasca la tarisoara noastra frumoasa si bogata, cu toate formele de relief si iesire la mare. adevarul ca si pe mine ma enerveaza ideea cu transilvania. de ce numai transilvania? si eu as avea mai mult incredere intr-o administratie maghiara!! ma rog, totdeauna a fost exagerat acest pericol - probabil programatic, ca sa distraga atentia de la problemele reale.

dar nu inteleg de ce au prins atat de bine toate aceste 'doctrine ale urii'.

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coldlikedeath March 4 2008, 09:45:10 UTC
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat in the name of holy flying Jesus on a bicycle?! In Ireland, we are taught Religion in primary and secondary school, but we can drop it after the fifth year of secondary education. I did; we didn’t focus on one religion, though, we looked at many of them.

I’m not sure how Finland treats Religion as a subject in schools; I’ll have to ask about that.

But that’s shit. And the reason I turned away from Christianity. It is 08, you are in the EU; if NI or Fi or the UK did this there'd be war! (Actually, there's hell in the UK cos the Bishop of Canterbury said that they'd have to accept Sharia law sometime. The hell? No, we don't; we have our laws, they have theirs, we do not need to mix the two. While I respect that "they" in question are immigrants etc, still I think they should not be made to accept our laws [to a point], nor we theirs).

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lisa_thecat March 4 2008, 09:56:15 UTC
here it's not a course about various religions, but actual catechism.

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dadi March 4 2008, 11:16:22 UTC
In Italy it is obligatory too (catholic religion). If you don't go to that, you need a written confirmation that you are following another religious education and prove you are going there. If you are not religious, they put you into an empty room while the others have religion, and you have to study.

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lisa_thecat March 4 2008, 11:40:33 UTC
totally stupid too! they have religion in high school too?

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coldlikedeath March 4 2008, 12:40:29 UTC
*is slightly shocked* And people wonder why I became an atheist eight years ago...

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schwester_grimm March 4 2008, 15:05:12 UTC
The education system here is a matter of the federal states. In my area few schools offer religion as a subject. I'm convinced it is different in Bavaria. With all the catholic hardliners there it may be even mandatory.

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lisa_thecat March 4 2008, 16:40:49 UTC
doesn't this sound medieval to you?

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schwester_grimm March 4 2008, 17:49:38 UTC
It does, indeed. I'd like to know if the youth just takes the classes because they have to, or if they follow willingly.

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