Please help to translate in Latin

Feb 22, 2015 10:37

How to say Latin " ( I was) born in educated in Moscow"

Moscoviae natus et educatus (sum)?

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whswhs February 22 2015, 15:07:55 UTC
I don't think Latin requires a verb for "to be" in the present tense, any more than Classical Greek does, or (if I got that correctly) Russian. But if you had one, say for emphasis, sum is the present tense. You might want the past tense to translate your proposed sentence, though I'm not sure of the Latin idiom-"I am born in Moscow" might be natural there.

I think the traditional Latin form might be Muscoviae, from the medieval name "Muscovy." There was a poet named Andreas Tharaeus Muscoviensis (the Latin form of his name), for example, though a google turns up both "muscoviensis" and "moscoviensis."

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ouranopolis February 22 2015, 15:13:40 UTC
Yes, of course this is past tense, I WAS born and educated in Moscow.

No, I have seen in works of Herberstein just Moscovia. This is for tatoo, so Muscovia is absolutely not-understandable as Muscovy is Moscow, when Moscovia (Moscoviae) is quite understandable.

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come_to_think February 23 2015, 01:12:52 UTC
As best I can tell from my aging notes:

Muscovia is the nominative, but feminine nouns in -a had a locative in -ae, so Muscoviae (or in Muscovia, with long a).

Past passive would be "natus eram" for a man, and "nata eram" for a woman.

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ouranopolis February 23 2015, 06:10:51 UTC
Thank you very much, is in this case lomg "a" in word Moscovia has some marks on it? So, as I undetstand, this is literally not a mistake to right Muscovia natus is I want short, lapidar look of sentence?

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come_to_think February 23 2015, 15:58:10 UTC
It's either "Muscoviae" (locative case) or "in Muscovia" (preposition with ablative case). In the latter phrase, the "a" is long, and in an elementary textbook it might be marked with a bar over it to distinguish it from the short "a" in the nominative case, but that is not done in ordinary usage.

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ouranopolis February 23 2015, 16:01:15 UTC
Thank you very much!

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come_to_think February 24 2015, 01:42:24 UTC
You're welcome. However, you might want to consult someone who actually knows Latin to confirm the guesses of someone who studied it for a little while >50 years ago. %^)

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