Well, as someone who likes to put her two gay cents in; I don't know any trannie who is offended by the word "shemale" nor do I know any gay person offended by the words "fag" or "queer." In fact, I do have a trannie friend who has used the word "shemale" to refer to herself. I'm pretty sure that counts as reclaiming the word. But I'm sorry that I don't know the word in Japanese. Wouldn't a slang dictionary have such a word?
hi. "trannie" here... actually i prefer the non-diminutive "transgender" or just "trans", thanks. totally offended by the word 'shemale'. it's a product of the porn industry which uses it to objectify and exploit trans women. it pretty much sucks. if a few people self-identify that way, or other trans folks choose to use it as an in-group term, that's fine. but, that doesn't make it non-offensive on the whole or appropriate for non-trans people to use.
I didn't say it wasn't offensive on the whole, and I certainly don't agree with barring it from non-trans, but I do agree that non-trans should know their boundaries for their trans friends. Also, sorry for 'trannie.' Come to think of it, that's one for transvestites, isn't it?
I don't think "tranny," or "trannie," is restricted to transvestites (or cross-dressers, as my friends who identify as such prefer to be called). I've heard it used for people anywhere under the trans umbrella, whether they like it or not. I'm trans myself, and I generally have a negative reaction toward hearing people refer to others as a tranny without already knowing that that person identifies with that term. It's kind of like "queer" in that way, where some people like it and some people really don't.
As for the term "shemale," in my experience, it has a much stronger negative connotation. I can imagine that within some social circles it might be reclaimed, but on a more widespread level, it seems like a bad idea for anyone to use it referring to anyone but themselves.
You're right, and I was going to continue on, but I just woke up and am having trouble coming up with the right words (I've tried 3 times to write something good- and misspelled 'write' twice, to show you how awake I am-) and also, though relevant to the original post, the original poster is probably getting tired of us ;)
Clearly, neither have you. Did you see anywhere that I said that NOBODY is offended by the word? No. I would never say that. I said that all my trans friends are not offended by it.
You just used your anecdotal experiences to imply as much.
"I don't know any trannie who is offended by the word "shemale" nor do I know any gay person offended by the words "fag" or "queer." In fact, I do have a trannie friend who has used the word "shemale" to refer to herself."
You're right on both. No control when it comes to other people taking words different ways, and I don't know many transgenders (but I do know many gay people and semi-gay people).
Same as bisexual, pretty much. But I have many bi friends who like to refer to themselves as partially gay or mostly gay if they are not right down the middle. I may not have been the first to use the term, but I started calling myself that as a math joke, and it became extremely popular in Rochester (as someone who doesn't usually make such waves, I strongly suspect I was NOT the first to use the term).
I don't know any trannie who is offended by the word "shemale" nor do I know any gay person offended by the words "fag" or "queer." In fact, I do have a trannie friend who has used the word "shemale" to refer to herself. I'm pretty sure that counts as reclaiming the word.
But I'm sorry that I don't know the word in Japanese. Wouldn't a slang dictionary have such a word?
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Also, sorry for 'trannie.' Come to think of it, that's one for transvestites, isn't it?
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As for the term "shemale," in my experience, it has a much stronger negative connotation. I can imagine that within some social circles it might be reclaimed, but on a more widespread level, it seems like a bad idea for anyone to use it referring to anyone but themselves.
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Clearly, you haven't been paying attention.
If there is a need to reclaim a word, it's obviously offensive to someone.
I do refer to myself as a shemale, but I also know that it's viewed as an indicator of the cisgender user's bigoty by some trannies.
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Did you see anywhere that I said that NOBODY is offended by the word? No. I would never say that. I said that all my trans friends are not offended by it.
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You just used your anecdotal experiences to imply as much.
"I don't know any trannie who is offended by the word "shemale" nor do I know any gay person offended by the words "fag" or "queer." In fact, I do have a trannie friend who has used the word "shemale" to refer to herself."
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