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IntoTheMystical:
Actually this is not Bach or Schubert, this Ave Maria was written by Charles Gounod who only borrowed a prelude from bach to complete this beautiful song, then included Bach's name in the title. Bach was a Lutheran and was repulsed by the idea of "Ave Maria".
You insult a great man's religion by suggesting Bach wrote an Ave Maria maxim6032, please have the decency to change it to it's real name, "Bach Gounod Ave Maria".
jazz0685:
Why would Bach be repulsed by the idea of Ave Maria? He wrote the Mass in B minor for the King of Poland, and later on expanded that to included a Credo, Sanctus and Agnus Dei.
IntoTheMystical:
Lutherans are a Christian religion, and Bach was a very devote Christian. Lutherans (and protestants today) believed that salvation came from God through Jesus, not Mary. Mary, they think, is just the mother of Jesus.
In Bach's time, Lutherans were horribly persecuted by the Catholic church because they did not believe as Catholics. Bach wrote much Christian music, but not an Ave Maria, his religion didn't believe Mary was devine.
jazz0685:
Neither does ours. You have many misconceptions about the Catholic Church. Bach being a devout Christian does not dismiss the fact that he wrote Masses. Martin Luther himself prayed his rosary frequently if not daily. If God wanted Mary to just be the mother of Jesus,He would have made St.Joseph His father. You cannot separate the Divinity of Christ from His humanity. That is a heresy. Mary is called "Theotokos:" Godbearer.Christ got His spotless humanity from a spotless virgin.
jazz0685:
He is 100% Divine, and 100% human, and not 50/50. Lilkewise, in Luther's day, Catholics were horribly persecuted by Lutherans, and the property of the Church was plundered and pillaged by the "Reformers."
Catholics believe salvation came through Mary insofar as she is the one who gave her "yes" to God when He asked her permission to become her child; to unite our human nature to His divine nature. He could only do that through a human mother. If you have trouble with God wanting a mother, then you need to discuss that with Him. It was His idea.
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Haha, I thought the last part was funny :D
Actually this is not Bach or Schubert, this Ave Maria was written by Charles Gounod who only borrowed a prelude from bach to complete this beautiful song, then included Bach's name in the title. Bach was a Lutheran and was repulsed by the idea of "Ave Maria".
You insult a great man's religion by suggesting Bach wrote an Ave Maria maxim6032, please have the decency to change it to it's real name, "Bach Gounod Ave Maria".
jazz0685:
Why would Bach be repulsed by the idea of Ave Maria? He wrote the Mass in B minor for the King of Poland, and later on expanded that to included a Credo, Sanctus and Agnus Dei.
IntoTheMystical:
Lutherans are a Christian religion, and Bach was a very devote Christian. Lutherans (and protestants today) believed that salvation came from God through Jesus, not Mary. Mary, they think, is just the mother of Jesus.
In Bach's time, Lutherans were horribly persecuted by the Catholic church because they did not believe as Catholics. Bach wrote much Christian music, but not an Ave Maria, his religion didn't believe Mary was devine.
jazz0685:
Neither does ours. You have many misconceptions about the Catholic Church. Bach being a devout Christian does not dismiss the fact that he wrote Masses. Martin Luther himself prayed his rosary frequently if not daily. If God wanted Mary to just be the mother of Jesus,He would have made St.Joseph His father. You cannot separate the Divinity of Christ from His humanity. That is a heresy. Mary is called "Theotokos:" Godbearer.Christ got His spotless humanity from a spotless virgin.
jazz0685:
He is 100% Divine, and 100% human, and not 50/50. Lilkewise, in Luther's day, Catholics were horribly persecuted by Lutherans, and the property of the Church was plundered and pillaged by the "Reformers."
Catholics believe salvation came through Mary insofar as she is the one who gave her "yes" to God when He asked her permission to become her child; to unite our human nature to His divine nature. He could only do that through a human mother. If you have trouble with God wanting a mother, then you need to discuss that with Him. It was His idea.
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Haha, I thought the last part was funny :D