I'm not sure what to make of lifting the excommunication -- or more precisely, whether to care. Does it really make sense to say, "You're saying things that defy plain fact, so we won't turn wine and bread into Christ for you"?
Ah, but the usual reason for excommunication is disobedience to the Pope, which is what happened in this case. Of course, nothing else much matters to the Vatican except that the four Clerics involved refused to obey. The Vatican has given in over some of the doctrine points involved, and this has allowed compromise, and the re-instating of the four bishops.
This just points up how ludicrous the whole thing is. (And I have Catholic friends and relatives who would doubtless agree.)
is one of the reasons I won't shut up about organised religion - in this case, the leaders of the Catholic church. This, of course, is the Pope who is well on the way to making Pius XII, who was on good terms with Hitler (who never renounced his own Catholicism), into a Saint.
Not the smartest thing they could be doing at this time, I fear :-) I'm sure there are far better candidates for sainthood out there.
This leads nicely into what I wanted to talk about, which is the movie Valkyrie.
Haven't seen it, and am not likely to, as I don't get to the pictures, but it was never going to be an easy subject for a film - it would probably make a better TV drama.
It's a decent movie, but you see it for the acting, and the handsome, accurate settings. It's too simplistic and too glossy, but Von Stauffenberg and his group were genuine heroes. If it has something to teach is that complicated plots don't work in real life...Far too many people involved. Von Stauffenberg had the courage ot have assassinated Hitler face to face, which at least
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Far from glossing over the disabilities, they made a big thing with the eyepatch and the glass eye - the glass eye (i.e. Cruise as normal) only being used when he was being introduced to Hitler etc. They used the usual long-sleeve gambit for the missing hand, and either cgi or fingers bent back on the left hand. Likewise real problems arming the device...
Well, that's something. Granted, it is quite hard even nowadays to show a missing limb when the actor is naturally whole, but in this case it's pretty integral to the plot - had he not been maimed he wouldn't have been in the position to do what he did.
Re: On Holocaustslil_shepherdJanuary 25 2009, 21:41:34 UTC
*snerk*
I (rather unfortunately) heard this in my head in a cod Jewish-momma accent.
Six (just 6) would have been too many. And, as the human mind can't understand really understand a million, except in an abstract, mathematical way, the difference between six and sixty million is something none of us can really take in - so perhaps she was right.
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This just points up how ludicrous the whole thing is. (And I have Catholic friends and relatives who would doubtless agree.)
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Not the smartest thing they could be doing at this time, I fear :-) I'm sure there are far better candidates for sainthood out there.
This leads nicely into what I wanted to talk about, which is the movie Valkyrie.
Haven't seen it, and am not likely to, as I don't get to the pictures, but it was never going to be an easy subject for a film - it would probably make a better TV drama.
It's a decent movie, but you see it for the acting, and the handsome, accurate settings. It's too simplistic and too glossy, but Von Stauffenberg and his group were genuine heroes. If it has something to teach is that complicated plots don't work in real life...Far too many people involved. Von Stauffenberg had the courage ot have assassinated Hitler face to face, which at least ( ... )
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'My niece rang me up one day to say it was terrible that Hitler killed 60 million Jews in the holocaust.'
Six million, I told her, not sixty.
'Six, sixty, what does it matter anyway?' she replied.
Well, sixty million would have been unforgivable....
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I (rather unfortunately) heard this in my head in a cod Jewish-momma accent.
Six (just 6) would have been too many. And, as the human mind can't understand really understand a million, except in an abstract, mathematical way, the difference between six and sixty million is something none of us can really take in - so perhaps she was right.
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